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1747 - Abt 1807 (60 years)
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Name |
Thomas Patterson [1, 2] |
Born |
bet.1743-1747 |
North American Colonies [2, 3] |
Gender |
Male |
Died |
abt.1807 |
Buncombe County, North Carolina U.S.A. [3] |
Notes |
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Per Harald Reksten.....Sold land to Robert Patterson in 1786, 6 0 acre grant (1767 - Cravin County, SC)
From the land deeds of York County.
B-277. 20 March 1786 Thomas Patterson of York County, to Rober t Patterson of
same for 35 pounds, 60 acres in York County on both sides of Cla rks fork of
Bullocks Creek, a survey of land granted to Thomas by patent dat ed 22 April
1767, adjoining Harrisons old line, Blacks old line. Signed Tho mas
Patterson. Witnesses: Peter Patterson, Benjamin White, Daniel P onder.
Proved: 20 --- 1790 by Peter Patterson.
Last known address: Now Chester - York County, South Carolina . per Harald Reksten.
Possible locations of Thomas Patterson on the 1790 Census (assum ing he went south)
With John...
Randolph Co NC
Patterson, John 1 1 1 page 100
Thomas 1 0 4 page 100
Alex 3 0 1 page 100
Black, George 1 3 3 page 98
Without John ... assume John was in York Co SC.
Surry Co NC
Patterson, Thomas 1 1 5 page 186
Greenbery 4 4 4 page 185
Blackburn, Susanna 0 2 3 page 185
Dorchester Co NC
Patterson, Thomas 2 3 2 page 35
William 3 2 1 page 41
No Blacks, No Blackburns
Chatham CO NC
Patterson, Thomas 1 0 1 page 84
Charles 2 5 5 page 85
Gilbert 2 8 6 page 85
James 3 1 3 page 84
Joel 1 1 3 page 85
No Blacks, No Blackburns
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Thomas Patterson
Birthdate: approx. 1748
Father: Robert Patterson
Mother: Sarah
Known Children: John Patterson (born ca 1766)
Notes:
Sold 60 acres of land to Robert Patterson in 1786 in what is no w York Co SC.
Thomas and John are mentioned in Robert's fathers will
"Item I give and bequeath unto my son Thomas fifty pounds lawfu l money of South Carolina to be leveed out of my estate and al l my clothes except my fur hat and one gray three year old mar e and colt to his son John."
All known Thomas Pattersons on the 1790 Census
Dorchester Co SC
Chathum CO NC
Randolph CO NC
Surry Co NC
New Castle Co DE
Frenderick CO MD
Rockingham CO NH
Albany Co NY
Comumbia CO NY
Wlster Co NY
Washington Co NY
Allegheny Co PA
Chester Co PA
Cumberland CO PA
Fayette Co PA
Lancaster Co PA
Washington Co PA
Westmoreland CO PA
On 8/17/01 7:48 AM, "wpatersn@wfubmc.edu" wrote:
> Robert Patterson of the old Craven Co./York County, SC lived fro m ca. 1727
> to 1791. His oldest son was Thomas Patterson, born ca. 1748, p robably
> around Augusta County, Va. Thomas sold land to his father Rober t Patterson
> in York County, SC in 1786, possibly indicating that he was leavi ng the
> area as many families were.
>
> There was a Thomas Patterson listed in the 1800 Buncombe Co. , NC census.
> I realize that all the land (in NC) west of Buncombe county wa s Indian
> lands in 1800, but all white persons in those lands were recor ded on the
> Buncombe county census. Who was this Thomas Patterson? Does an yone have
> any information to show that he was NOT the son of the York co unty, SC
> Robert Patterson?
>
> I am open to anyone who will offer corrections to my informati on, but
> lately I have (once again) been pouring over the census record s of 1790,
> 1800, 1810, 1820, etc. for upper SC, Buncombe, Haywood and Mac on
> counties of NC, and the north Ga counties of Hall, Habersham , Rabun, and
> Union during the 1830, 1834, and 1840 years (there's an 1834 l isting for
> Union in case some of you didn't know).
>
> I believe that Thomas Patterson (son of Robert Patterson 1727- 1791 of
> York County, SC) was the father of "our" John Patterson, the on e who
> married Margaret Black about 1788 in the old Pendleton Distric t of SC.
> John and Margaret were in Union County, Ga in 1840, and Margare t was still
> living during the 1850 Union County, Ga census.
>
> I DO know that our John (b. ca. 1765-1767 SC, d. 1840s GA) wa s in the
> Buncombe County, NC census in 1800 and 1810. I know that he was i nvolved in
> land deeds in Buncombe county between 1800 and 1810 involvin g tracts of
> land called "Newfound" and "French Broad River", and others. T hese deeds
> were with a Richard Morrow and a Reuben Black. The Blacks, Pat tersons,
> Morrows, and Ponders were all involved in land transactions o n those
> tracts of land during those years. Most of these same families /family
> members were living next to each other in 1810 in Buncombe als o. Also,
> John Patterson married Margaret Black (as mentioned before), a nd their
> oldest son was named Joseph B. Patterson. There were quite a f ew Joseph
> Blacks in that area, and I have always wondered if his full na me was
> Joseph Black Patterson.
>
> As for Thomas Patterson - he was living right next to our Joh n Patterson
> in 1800! I was just reviewing the original microfilm for tha t 1800
> Buncombe census, and let me tell you - having transcriptions o f records
> available online are great helps, but they don't replace the v alue of
> the original. The online versions of this census I have read b efore are
> in alphabetical order. But there were several Pattersons in Bu ncombe
> then. But when you look at the microfilm of the original you'l l see that
> John Patterson was the last line on page 184 and that Thomas P atterson
> was the first line on page 185 - right next to him. The othe r Pattersons
> in 1800 were much farther away from them in the "P"s section.
>
> Thomas was listed as 45+ in 1800 (Robert's son Thomas would ha ve been
> about 52). John was in the 26-45 category (most records have h im as
> being born about 1766 or 67 - that would make him 33 or 34). W e know
> that Robert's Thomas had a son named John according to the 177 5 will of
> Robert Patterson - most researchers of that family having Thom as's John
> as being born ca. 1765-1766. Well, the 1810 Buncombe county ce nsus lists
> our John as 45+ which if he was actually 45, that would be a b irth year
> of 1765. So I have modified my records in my database to lis t his birth
> year as "about 1765 - 1767". The point being he is definitel y old enough
> to be the same John referred to in Robert's will.
>
> Another thing... Robert not only had the son Thomas, but he al so had a
> daughter named Lydia who married a John Black. So we know th e Blacks and
> the York County, SC Pattersons were together, as well. Also, anot her
> daughter of Robert named Elizabeth married Daniel Ponder (Poun ders in
> some records). This is the same Ponders that was involved in l and deeds
> in Buncombe county in 1801. He bought land on the "Newfound" f rom George
> Black.
>
> The only other thing I know about Thomas Patterson is that h e sold land
> to his father in York, SC in 1786. Was he and his son John o n the move
> at that point? We do know that our John was over in Pendleto n District
> by 1788 when he married Margaret Black, and in 1790 on the cen sus. That
> was moving NW, and between 1795 and 1798 we know that John an d Margaret
> had moved into the western part of NC. Their son John II was b orn ca.
> 1798 in NC. And then we have John and Margaret listed on the B uncombe
> census in 1800 right next to a Thomas Patterson (and Thomas' s wife, by
> the way).
>
> Six months ago when I was first looking at these Craven/York c ounty
> Pattersons, I felt pretty positive about the possibilities o f a link,
> but since I have been going through the deed records of Buncom be again
> and the census records (originals) again, it's making much cle arer
> sense.
>
> I would greatly appreciate any feedback on this line of thinki ng (Thomas
> being the father of "our" John), whether you agree with me o r not. I
> will never have all of the facts, that's why I need all of you r
> feedback. Thank you so much.
>
> Wes Patterson
> http://wespatterson.com/patterson.html
>
>
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Marty Grant:
Buncombe County was formed in 1791 from Burke and Rutherford, s o by 1800 it
covered all of extreme Western NC.
1800 Buncombe County, NC (census was roughly alphabetical, so I can' t tell who
was living where, or who were actual neighbors)
pg 184 Alexander Patterson 00010-00000 ** Alexander (1755/74). N FI
pg 184 James Patterson 11101-21010 ** James (bef 1755). NFI. A w idow "Piety
Patterson" was here in 1810 who *might* be his widow.
pg 184 John Patterson 11010-30010-0-1 ** John (c1766) and wife M argaret
Black. Here in 1810 also.
pg 184 Robert Patterson 20010-30010 ** Robert (1765/74). Here i n 1810 also.
pg 185 Matthew Patterson 00001-00001 ** Matthew (c1749), my ance stor. Moved
here from Rutherford in the 1790's. He was still here in 1810.
pg 185 Thomas Patterson 00001-00101 ** Thomas (bef 1755). NFI
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Person ID |
I4620 |
Devin Timber | Cay's pedigree |
Last Modified |
23 Jan 2010 |
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