Giles Carter^{[1, 2, 3]}

1635 - 1701  (65 years)

• Name	Giles Carter  [4]
  Born	24 Apr 1635	Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England
  Gender	Male
  Died	12 Feb 1701	Turkey Island, Henrico Co., Virginia   [5]
  Notes	The Giles of Henrico Clan ID - Name(s): 31831 Giles of Henrico Carter Nick-Title: - Born 1635-04-24 Cirencester, Gloucestershire England Died: 1701-02-12 Turkey Island, Henrico Co VA Bio Mother: Bio Father: 31833 Theodore Cartor ID Sibling(s): 31841 Mary Cartor 31842 Joane Cartor 31843 Elizabeth Cartor 31844 Margery Cartor ID Spouse(s) - Marriage Dates: ID Children: (Those in italics are stepchildren) 35576 Hannah (probably) Rowen (ca. 1662-- ) 36659 Thomas NOT of Goochland 31832 Hannah Crewe DAR (ca. 1670-- Turkey Island, Henrico Co VA) 31837 Susanna Carter 31836 Theodrick Carter dna 31838 Mary Davis ne(e) Carter 31839 Ann Davis ne(e) Carter 31835 Giles Jr. of Henrico Carter Personal Biography (in addition to the Narratives): First of all, yes, we are now officially listing Thomas of Goochland as a son of Giles instant ..... and .... listing Capt. James Crews as the (unlawful) father of Hannah. We are indebted to many others not only for their thorough research, but for their added comments and critical analysis that made this possible. See our Bios for Thomas and Hannah for all of the details Giles 1584 Lower Swell - 1664 Cold Aston - Died Without Issue Before we delve into the details of Giles Carter of Henrico instant, we need to sort and correct the record that has created havoc and confusion for many years, nay for decades. With absolute certainty ... and contrary to everything you have seen, the Giles who married Tracy had no children, never mind Giles instant. With a fair amount of certainty ... and contrary to Gen. Carter, the father of Giles of Henrico was not Giles, rather Theodor of Cirencester. With high probability ... and contrary to Dawson, Giles of King George County was a refugee from the religous strife across the river in Maryland, whose origins in England are still open to discussion. This is all from the superb work of others, we are just collecting, sorting and reporting the results. An Introduction to Gloucestershire from Joe Carter on Genforum: " ... you are correct in saying that the Giles Carter married to Elizabeth Tracy was associated with the Tracy's before his marriage to Elizabeth. His Father John Carter's wife Mary Lawrence was the daughter of Robert Lawrence and Eleanora (Elinor) Stratford , Eleanor Stratfords Father Was John Stratford that was married to Margarett Tracy daughter of William Tracy , John Stratford's sister Alice was the Wife of Edmund Broadway , John Stratford's sister Margaret was the wife of Edward Baugh". It is separately proven that Paul and William Tracy (old spelling) were first cousins from Toddington and were quite active in the tobacco industry in both Gloucestershire and Virginia. Throw the Bloody Books Away .... GenForum posting of Joy Carter Johnstone of 8 Oct 2002 ..... "I have been researching Giles Carter and family since 1975. In the late 70's my father and I went to Cold Aston and to research England. My father, who was a student of history and it was important to him that we be accurate in our findings. In Cold Aston we visited a church which we had heard about from a cousin who had been to England in the 60's. This little church has a plaque high upon the wall opposite the doorway. It reads as follows: "Anno Dom 1664--Giles Carter the eldest son of John Carter of Netherswell Co. of Gloucester, Esq. his two brothers being John Carter of Charlton Abbots and William Carter of Bressnorton in Oxford married Elizabeth the daughter of Paul Tracye of Standwell and DIED WITHOUT ISSUE." Capitalization my own. "There are many plaques in various corners and my father and I also saw this one in a dark corner. It reads: "In memory of the noble Giles Carter formerly of Lower Swell in this County, Esq., who by probity of manners, faith and piety in divine things and also in the Prince, was famous among the poor in pious old age closing his life died in the 80th year of his life the 24th of March in the year of our Lord 1664, and there preceded him by eight years, his dear wife, Elizabeth, descended from the honest and splendid of Tracy, who together with him lived for 60 years of marriage and both will not be separate again in the Celestial Kingdom." Joy continues with the "Abstracts of Records and Manuscripts Respecting the Co. of Glouster; Formed into a History, Correcting the very erroneous accounts and Supplying Numerous Deficiencies in Sir Robert Atkyns and Subsequent Writers," by Thomas Dudley Fosbrooke Vol.2, 1807.... " ... in 1590 John Stratforde of Farcote, conveyed (his estate) to John Carter of Pyrton, in Churchdown. Giles, his son, by will dated 1664 devised to Edward his nephew and his heirs male, remainder, in default of such issue, to his nephew Goddard, in fee. Goddard devised to his daughter Rebecca, in fee, who married Sir John D'Oyley." " ... for years and years researchers have tried to make Giles the son of Giles and Eliz. Tracy. But as you can see, it simply cannot be so. Giles 1634-1701 MAY be of the same family by some other relationship but ..... he cannot be a son of Giles and Elizabeth". [Our emphasis]. Joy has been fighting a losing battle on this for the past five years and we thought we would now make it very, very, very clear. (Yes ... and how clear is that?) We now have a minor task immediately in front of us to prove the John Carter of Pryton in 1590 is the same as our John of Lower Swell in 1606 and later; Churchdown is an eastern suburb of the City of Gloucester, while Badgeworth is about half way over to Stow-on-the-Wold, where the three different Swells and Cold Aston are then found. Joe Carter [see GenForum No. 15353] sent us the Inquisiton Post Mortem of John Carter of Lower Swell at Tewksbury on 4 April 1628. It would appear that Paul Tracy, Esquire later Baron, provided the manor at Cold Aston as a wedding gift in the three party indenture of 1606. The date of this transaction alone places the date of birth of Giles of Cold Aston before 1585 and nothing like the date of 1604 from the books. "So seized [legally owns], the said John Carter and Giles Carter, his son and heir apparent, by indenture tripartite, dated 18th January 3 James I [1606], and made between him, the said John Carter, and Mary his wife of the one part, Paul Tracy, then esquire and afterwards baronet, and William Essex, gentleman, deceased, of the second part, and the said Giles Carter and Elizabeth Tracy, one of the daughters of the said Paul, and now the wife of the said Giles, of the third part ....." In plain English, immediately after payment of a fine, John Carter of Lower Swell and his son Giles shall become the legal owners of the manor at Cold Aston, etc. and enjoy the premises for life but without the lands .... "After the said Elizabeth Tracey for life, as part of her jointure and dower" .... and after her death, to John and all heirs male". The Constant Movement of Carters of Gloucestershire Annotations: 1) Paul Tracy was Knighted after 1606 but before 1627 (now proven to be in 1611), 2) allow us to emphasize the phrase " .... and now the wife of the said Giles", 3) Giles is an active, legal participant of this transaction, 4) it says Dowry! As an aside, this Inquisition demonstrates that the Indenture Tripartite was the standard legal form of the day to pass a Dowry not only to the new son-in-law, but to the whole of his family. This in turn explains the contant movement of our Carter of Gloucestershire. Separately, the very last entry of the whole of this Inquisition is misleading in stating "Giles Carter is his son and heir, and was then aged 30 years or more". (In 1627) Whatever the provisions, Giles of Cold Aston was a legal adult in 1606! They married sometime in 1605! Did you notice, for example, that the second plaque at Cold Aston proves the birth of Giles instant in 1584? " ... closing his life died in the 80th year of his life the 24th of March in the year of our Lord 1664" But then, typical for memorial plaques on both sides of The Pond, Giles and Elizabeth could not have been married for 60 years, could they? Given all the above, it was Giles who lived for another sixty years after the marriage, Elizabeth for only fifty-two years. Once more with feeling, the 1606 transaction was a wedding gift, only back then it was called a Dowry! The Inquisition then recites two other three party indentures. In 1611, by perfect analogy to the first, said John Carter passes legal ownership "in Charlington, Cothey and elsewhere" to his son John Jr. and his wife Anne, daughter of Eustace Darcy, Esq. (This is an example of why any given child - especially the oldest - may be missing from the later will of the father). In 1622, said John Carter passes legal ownership of lands and houses in the parish of Blockley in the county of Worcester to his nephews who have somehow married into the families of Edward Goddard, Esq., Sir Giles Fettiplace and Edward, son of Edward. That will be a matter for a separate enquiry of a later date; meanwhile, see the Joseph Carter Introduction above, together with the 1590 citation for John Stratforde of Farcote. The Fatal Visit of 1620 Otherwise, there is very little known about the life of Giles of Cold Aston. Gen. William Harding Carter in his 1909 book accurately describes the 1620 visit of the Carter and Tracy on pp. 32, 33, and yet, he is the singular source of the error for two Giles to be the father and grandfather of Giles instant! The plaque with both names and the three party indenture of 1606 proves this is our Giles of Cold Aston: "The first Giles Carter of whom there is any record in Virginia, came from Gloucestershire, England, with William Tracey on the Supply, which sailed from Bristol, September 24th, 1620 (O.S.) and arrived at Berkley January 29th, 1620 (O.S.). After looking over the situation Giles Carter returned to England immediately before or just after the Indian massacre of Friday, April 1st, 1622. The Carter family of Goucestershire, England, in which Gyles or Giles appears as a Christian name, was connected with the Tracey family by the marriage of Gyles Carter and Elizabeth Tracey. This Giles was a son of John Carter of Lower Sewell, who was High Sheriff of Gloucester in 1612." [sic for the spelling of Tracey] The last statement is proven beyond all doubt by the Inquisition of 1628 at Tewksbury. However, there is a second version of these events: Given the other errors, can we trust 1642? Of course not, read the plaque! This entry merely gives us more of the Tracy relatives, and at the same time, demonstrates the false data we have had to live with for many years: Giles Carter: Birth: 1604 in Swell, Gloucestershire, England Death: 1642 in Gloucestershire, England "Giles Carter came to Virginia with his uncle and aunt, William and Mary Tracy, his first cousins, Joyce and Thomas Tracy. They sailed on the ship "Supply" out of Bristol, England destined for Berkely Hundred on 9/25/1620. After the massacre of the settlers by Indians in 1620, Giles with his cousin Thomas Tracy returned to England. Giles' cousin, Joyce and her husband Captain William Powell were killed in the massacre. Giles remained in England, but his son Giles and his wife Hannah returned to Virginia." In The Matter of The Books Before Us Can we trust the information on the cousins with the ludicrous last statement? Giles of Henrico wasn't even born yet .... Giles of Cold Aston was sentenced to death in 1666 ... The hand written notes of John Smythe records the death of William Tracy on 8th April 1621. etc.etc.etc. On the other hand, it is well documented that William Tracy was a first cousin of Paul (three times removed) and had petitioned the Crown for the establishment of the Berkely Hundred and had organized the whole of the trip. (See final section below). This confused entry appears to be from Dawson, the same source who said Giles instant removed to King George, and there is some very good information and some very poor information in this same paragraph, isn't there? Need we say more? A partial answer to the confusion of the dates of the massacre, however, is found on the GenForum of Wesley Tracey of 18 Nov 2003: "...The question of the ancestry of Lt Thomas Tracy of Norwich, CT has been researched by many many people but the question has not been conclusively resolved. Early in the last century, a Dr. Dwight Tracy proposed that he was the son of "Governor" William Tracy of Virginia and had a single sibling, a sister, Joyce. In the book, "Virginia Historical Genealogies", 1975, by John Bennett Boddie, William Tracy is shown as having been appointed, along with one George Thorpe, to govern the colony of the Berkeley Hundred in Virginia. Captain Tracy and his wife were slain by Indians on 6 April 1621. Their daughter Joyce and her husband, Capt Nathaniell Powell, were killed the following year in an Indian massacre on 22 Feb 1622. "Thomas Tracy, son of Capt. William Tracy, survived and returned to England." There is speculation that he grew to maturity in England and later returned to New England to become our ancestor, Lt Thomas Tracy of Norwich". See the final section below for the Joseph Carter Hypothesis on the possible connection between the two Giles; even though Henrico is conveniently just up-river from Jamestown, it is curious the two Giles Carter from Gloucestershire arrived in Henrico. Joe alleges both sets of Carter instant married with the Stratford, but that will be a separate matter at a later date. On the other hand, contrary to Dawson, Giles of King George is a completely different person and family, probably a refugee from the religous strife across the river in Maryland! Dawson is frankly right behind Dr. Miller in making false assumptions and erroneous connections to the Carters of Colonial Virginia. Once and for all, the two sets of Carter from Gloucestershire are now clearly identified: Giles m. Tracy was born 1584 to John (married 1605, visited Henrico in 1620, died in Cold Aston in 1664) Giles m. Rowen and Crews was born 1634 to Theodor (arrived 1653, first marriage 1660, second 1675) Once more with feeling .............. Throw The Bloody Books Away! Giles 1634 Cirencester - 1701 Henrico - An Unlikely First Cousin [For consistency, we use the dates of christening for all the children of Theodore - common sense then says to deduct a month or two for the actual date of birth]. Peyton Carter, 1 Apr 2003 on GenForum. " I have received confirmation from the records office in Gloucestershire, England, of the baptismal record of Giles Carter, who immigrated to Henrico County, Virginia. Here is the actual reply I received: "A member of staff checked the baptism register for the parish of Cirencester (P86) for the year 1635 and I can confirm that the baptism of Gyles, son of Theodor [?Theodore] Cartor is recorded. The spelling of names was not standardised until fairly recently and so the slight difference in spelling of both the christian and surnames is not significant." Gloucestershire Record Office, Gloucester, England, 24/4/1635, PFC 86 in 1/1, No. 5, p. 243. Apr 1680 Deposition of Giles CARTER, aged about 46. p 143 (Order Book & Wills 1678-1693, p 57) Lavere Peters on her RootsWeb proves we have the correct Giles (Gen. Carter confirms the deposition): "A more likely theory for the father of Giles is Theodor CARTER who,according to the IGI for parish records of Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England, had a son Giles born in 1634 and christened 24 April 1635. That birth date coincides with Giles's 1680 deposition, in which he declares himself to be 46 years old. Also, our Giles CARTER named his first son Theodrick. [touche .... only, of course, if you realize his father was not Giles] "I suspect that Theodor CARTER may have been related in some way to the Giles CARTER who made a trip to Virginia in 1621 [** see above] and/or to Gyles CARTER, Esq. of Cold Aston; so we may still latch onto some of the medieval folks. The children attributed in the IGI to Theodor are Mary, Giles, Joane, Elizabeth, and Margery". We now have proof the visitor was the same Giles of Cold Aston, accompanied by his aunts, uncles and cousins from the Tracy. As an aside, during our search for the visitor, we discovered RootsWeb postings that cite several Carters/Giles jumping over from Maryland during it's "religous strife" of the 17th century. From our earlier work on both branches of the Carters of Lancaster, we know the Brent estate at Aquilla, Stafford County is a singular example of the migration. It was settled by William Brent who was the first Catholic in Virginia, and subsequently owned by Robert King Carter but managed and operated by his cousins and nephews from Capt. Thomas Carter. The refugees from Maryland could well be the source for Giles of King George, which of course sits right on the Potomac River, upstream and right next door to Northumberland which is proven to be the first place of refuge. And, by the way ..... Stafford sits right above King George ..... on the Potomac. The Two Marriages of Giles of Henrico - Probably This is the date of the patent, there is no clue as to when the fifteen persons actually came over; although it is not proof in the strict sense, this would be our Giles instant in that he would be at the "perfect age" of eighteen. Merely by common sense, he would then serve his indenture for a few years and first marry by 1660. (There are random and unproven statements that the indenture was in fact for three years). Henrico Co., Va. Patent Book 3, page 192: Mr. William Fry, 750 acres near the head of Chichamony River on SW side thereof, 7 April 1653. Beg. at Fleets quarter including a small indian field, for transporting 15 persons: Giles Carter, Ralph Spendlowe, Jane Walker, Miles Noble, Anne Williams, William Brooke, Ralph Burton, Andrew Miller, Alice Archer, the said Fry's wife and his three children, Dorothy Miller, William Hoccadie(?Hockaday). The Randolph A. Malone book "Josiah Carter: His Forebears, Descendants and Allied Families", (Grandson of Thomas Carter Sr. who is currently styled as Thomas of Goochland) appears to answer the confusion over Hannah. After his presumed indenture with William Fry who was on the northern border of Henrico County, our Giles would have been a Free Person and eligible for marriage circa 1660 at age twenty-five: "It is likely that as a young man Giles Carter was married to a daughter of John Rowen, since in a 1662 will he left the use of his house and land on a plantation to Giles for a year. Shortly thereafter Giles was well established in the eastern end of Henrico Co. near the Charles City Co. border. By 1676 he was married to Hannah Crewes, daughter of James Crewes". etc. Bill Husler cites the same will but goes on to provide excellent follow-on connections in his RootsWeb (database-billhusler). First off, Bill is another rare researcher, together with Ms. LaVere Peters, who frequently uses alleged, proposed and possibly at the appropriate time. Yes, there are several other transactions to show they were in the same area, but what evidence is there for Giles instant to be in the employ of Capt. James Crewes, Merchant? "1 May 1662 The will of John ROWEN of Henrico Co gives Giles CARTER a cow and the use for one year of a house and land on Rowen's Turkey Island estate. 2 John ROWEN was the stepfather? of Daniel and John PRICE; Daniel PRICE later married Susannah, daughter of Giles CARTER. One of the witnesses of this will was Margaret CREWS, daughter of Daniel LLEWELLYN and considered by some to have been the wife of James CREWES; if so, she must have died before 1676. See our Bio of Hannah for ... the presentation of the will of James by Giles ... and ... the very unusual provisions of the will ... and ... the subsquent deed with William Randolph citing Giles and Hannah as the Grantors in common ... and ... the analysis of Shawn Potter, with his focus on an unlawful daughter ... to prove James Crews as the father of Hannah beyond all reasonable doubt. On the other hand, there is nothing to say he was not first "properly" married to Margaret Llewellyn! "Before 1676 Apparently Giles CARTER was employed by, or associated with, Captain James CREWES who owned a large plantation in Henrico. Crewes was a merchant and acted as agent for Daniel LLEWELLYN (Virginia Colonial Records, Vol. II, pages 8, 10, 22, 29, 50, etc.). CREWES became involved in Bacon's Rebellion and was sentenced to death and hanged on January 24, 1677. (Minutes of the Council and General Court of VA, pages 455, 528) pp 34-40". Tracys Arranged a Passage,. Our Giles Thumbed a Ride And then, Bill provides one possible answer to our concern about the apparent disparity between the two sets of Carter from Goucestershire, both of whom married with the Stratford according to Joe Carter: one set arranged a whole passage, while Giles instant had his passage paid for. Wouldn't the following also set the stage for the Sentencing of a (cousin) Giles of Cold Aston in 1666? (Remember, Giles m. Tracey died in 1664) "NOTE 2. I wonder if his arrival in Virginia about 1653 was related to the political scene in England; 1653 was the beginning of the Cromwell years. During the preceding "Great Rebellion of 1642-48, Giles CARTER (his supposed father) was sequestered and compounded for 968 pounds, 17 shillings. p 104" Yes, but how does this explain the fact that William Frye paid for the passage of our Giles? For example ...... should we consider the following, given it has the correct early details and separates the two Giles Carter of Gloucestershire? {No source cited). Our basic question remains unanswered, but would a horse thief turn out to be a rather successful businessman of his own? "Our Carter Ancestors came from the County of Gloucestor, England. John Elizabeth Tracy, daughter of Sir Paul Tracy, Knight and Baronet of prior to 1577. On Jan. 26, 1619, William Tracy, Esq., of Hayles, Gloucestorshire petitioned the Virginia Company for a land grant to to be called Barkley's Hundred. Their ship was named "Supply" sailed the ones named were assacred by the Indians March 1622. Giles escaped. Another Giles Carter appeared in Virginia in 1653, listed as headright had been jailed in England for Stealing a horse and went before the Privy Council to be freed and transported to Virginia... " Billie Harris' notes on William Randolph of Turkey Island set the stage for the second marriage: In 1676 Turkey Island was partly owned by James Crew (one of the members of Bacon's Rebellion, and who was hanged) but in 1684 his heirs sold 600 acres to William Randolph, progenitor of The Randolphs of Virginia.. Comman Data: Marriage 1 Hannah Crewe b: 1638 [now proven to be the second marriage] Theodrick Carter b: 1676 Suzanna Carter b: ABT 1650 Giles Carter b: 1672 Mary Carter Ann Carter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Apr 1680 Deposition of Giles CARTER, aged about 46. p 143 (Order Book & Wills 1678-1693, p 57) Her Majesty's College of Arms: http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/Newsletter/009.htm Recently Recorded Pedigrees (June 2006): CARTER of Virginia and Massachusetts: a pedigree of eleven generations headed by Giles Carter of Henrico County, Virginia, who was aged 46 1680. College reference: Norfolk 51/30. How in Hades can they include Massachusetts? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Additional Proof of James Crewes as the Father of Hannah December 10, 1677. Thomas Forehand and Dermot Enroughty depose that the will exhibited in court by Giles Carter is the same of Capt. James Crewes, deceased, that they were witness to. (Henrico County, Virginia, Wills and Administrations, part i, p. 1) [Bill Husler: Giles Carter's possession and exhibition of the will--traditional responsibilities of the next-of-kin--indicate a unique relationship between James Crewes and the Carters. This record strengthens the case that Hannah was James Crewes' daughter.] August 24, 1684. William Randolph, of Varina Parish, Henrico County, Gent., from Giles Carter and Hannah x, his wife, of Parish and county aforesaid, 20 pound sterling for 60 acres, which was by the last will and testament of Capt. James Crewes given unto said Giles and Hannah Carter, being part of ye dividend of land or plantation at Turkey Island of which said Crewes died seized, which tract of land or plantation is since purchased by said William Randolph of ye heir and executor of said Crewes, deceased, as by conveyance. Recorded April 1, 1685. (Valentine Papers, vol. iii, Randolph Family, p. 1392) [Note of Bill Husler supports the identical logic from Shawn Potter in his posting of 8 July 2002 - where Shawn skillfully shows us that the attorney only said there were no lawful heirs and concludes that Hannah was unlawful! See our Bio for Hannah for his full analysis. "This deed confirms that James Crewes gave the plantation to both Giles and Hannah. Hannah's inclusion as joint recipient of the land, considered in the context of an era of limited female property rights, supports the conclusion that Hannah was the daughter of James Crewes".] 15 Mar 1685? Deed from Wm. COCKE to Giles CARTER for 59 acres, between Wm. COCKE and his brother Jno. p 145 5 15 Mar 1685? Deposition of Robt BULLINGTON as to a game of dice in which Giles CARTER won 500 lbs. of tobacco from Chas.STEWARD p 145 5 4 Feb 1686 Upon the petition of Giles CARTER, one of ye surveyors of the highways, that he is ancient, weak and sickly and therefore uncapable of performing his sd. office. It is ordered that he be released and discharged from ye same. p 149 5 (Henrico Co Colonial Records, Vol. 2, p 229) [He would have been 52 years of age if he was born in 1634.] 1 Jun 1686 Payments to Giles CARTER as his legacy from the estate of James CREWES, dec'd p 146 (Henrico Co. Colonial Records [D&W] 1677-1692, Vol 1, p 369) 1 Jun 1687 The will of Wm. Humphrey decd. proved by oath of Capt. Wm. RANDOLPH,a witness thereto; & order for probat thereof granted Margarett, wife of Maurice FLOYD, ye Exectrx. therein named. Robt. POVALL & Jno.WATSON enter themselves securities. Giles CARTER, John ANOT, Robert POVALL & Danl. PRICE appointed appraisers of sd.estate. p. 1299 1 Jun 1687 Certificate granted to Giles CARTER for 800 acresof land for the importation of 16 persons. p 41 2l Oct 1687 Giles CARTER (along with Robert WOODSON, Richard FERRES/FERRIS, Wm. FERRIS & Roger CUMMINS) patented 1780 acres, Henrico Co., Verina Par., N. side of James Riv., at the White Oak Swamp. About 1690 In a three-way division of the land after Wm FERRIS & Roger CUMMINS relinquished their part, Giles CARTER received about 552 acres. p 145 (Per Dawson, Deed Book 1688-97, p 126) [100 years after the granting of this patent, John CARTER, agrandson of Giles, in his will, gave to his son John, a piece of land at the White Oak Swamp] p 42 20 Sep 1692 Giles CARTER and Robert(X) POVALL, securities for Susanna PRICE's administrationon the estate of Danll. PRICE, dec'd. (Henrico Co. Records 1688-1697, p 356) Vol. III, p 1300) By the way, Povall was pronounced Pouall and hence we have the modern Powell. 1 Aug 1694 Giles CARTER, Senr. acknowledgeth a conveyance of 550 acres of land unto John COCKE; Hannah acknowledgeth her Right of Dower. Same day John COCKE acknowledge conveyance of fifty acres to Giles CARTER. Same day Giles CARTER acknowledged Deeds of Gift to his sons Theodorick and Giles. (Henrico Colonial Record, Vol. 2, p 201) p 147 Same day Giles and Theodorick CARTER witness a deed of Richard COCKE, Jr. of Charles City Co to Thomas WILLIAMSON of Henrico Co. [Thomas was married to Giles' daughter Susannah before 1696.] (STANARD's Index to Colonial Deeds, Wills, etc., Henrico Co, 1688-1697, p 504) p 147 Jjust the key components of the will executed on 14 Dec 1699; proven in open court on 2 Feb 1700/1 Note the important detail that Giles Jr. is still a minor which sets and confirms dates of the other children: I give and bequeath to my son Theodrick Carter five shillings Sterl'g to be paid by my Deare wife Hannah either in Silver or to the full value thereof as to her shall seeme most convenient. Item. I give to my Daughter Susanah now ye wife of Thos Williamson five shillings to be paid as above said. Item. I give & bequeath to my daughter Mary now ye wife of Thomas Davis five Shills. Sterl'g to be paid as aforesaid. Item. I give to my daughter Ann now the wife of James Davis, one fether bed and Bolster, one Rugg, one blanket and one Cow. Item. I give to my son Giles one mare called Nanny with her increase forever. It being a mare formerly given to him by William Sewell she then being but a Philly. These Legacies being paid as also with debts have or shall be lawfully by me contracted, being fully satisfied. Itis my will and desire that what of my Estate shall Remaine (one fether bed and furniture only excepted) for my wife hanna (which I give unto her) may be equally divided into two parts, the one part whereof to belong to my wufe Hannah the other to my son Giles. it not being my intent or design in any wise hereby to disannull or make voide a deed of Gift formerly by me made to my son Giles and entered upon Record. But I doe by this last will and testament Rattifie and confirm the same. Item. It is my will and desire that what Extate shall appertaine to my son Giles that he may receive the same when he shall arrive at ye age of eighteen years: and also injoy the benifit of his Labour, my wife Hannah not being any wise mollested or disturbed upon the plantacon we now live upon during her life Possible First Cousins - Did Both Sides Marry Stratford? Yes, it is intriguing that both Giles Carter instant came from the same general area of Gloucestershire and arrived in Henrico. However, there appears to be a wide disparity between the two as noted above ... and yet ... look at the flow of the names in the second column! A summary of the Joseph Carter Hypothesis (first column proven, second column guesses down to Theodor). These are all in Gloucestershire, just several miles from each other to the immediate west of Stow-on-the-Wold: Gen 1: Giles of Badgeworth d. 1585 ............. mentions brother Thomas of Badgeworth, n.f.i. Gen 2: John of Nether Swell d. 1625.............. Thomas 2. or Robert 1. ........ these really Raise the Ante Gen 3: Giles of Cold Aston d. 1666 ............... Theodor of Cirencester ........... they are the complete mix Gen 4: ........ no children ................................. Giles of Henrico d. 1701 ........... of names found in Henrico Gen 5: .......................................................... Giles, Thomas & Theodrick The ancient Roman town of Cirencester is some twenty miles southwest. Thing is, Joe has dug up another Three Party Deal to show that Lucy Tracy, another daughter of Sir Paul, was married to Bray Ayleworth in Cirencester! Curious ..... tantalizing ..... but we still need a Carter to Stratford marriage in Cirencester! Abstract of GenForum posting of Joseph Carter on 8 Feb 2004: "Gyles Carter 1585 of Badgeworth and seeing in the Will that his wife was Margarett and they had a son Named John Carter that was married to Mary Lawrence and it states John Carter and His Heirs Male lawfully begotten of the body of a Mary Lawrence ..... He gives to his Brother Thomas Carter his sister Agnes Holyday and a couple of other Sisters and to his son in law Thomas Machin of Cheltenham ..... [There is an Upper Swell, Lower Swell and Netherswell within a few miles of each other - with Cold Aston another few miles southwest of them - and then Badgeworth a few miles west of that. Do you remember those Dowrys?] "Now we are at John Carter of Neather Swell's Will written in 1625 who wishes to be buried in the Church of Stowe ..... He gives to his son Giles Carter and this is the Giles Carter that was Married to Elizabeth Tracy as stated in His Inquisition Later..... The Above John Carter gave unto John Carter the eldest son of My John Carter ..... and John Sr. gave to his son William and to William's eldest son Edward ..... and to William's youngest son John listed as God-Son to John Sr...... Also gave unto John Broadway Eldest Son of My Daughter ..... gave unto John Moore eldest son to his daughter and to William Moore and to other Moore children ..... and John Sr. gives to Humphrey Coles gentleman his son inlaw and makes him his executor [Clearly, there is no Thomas or Theodrick down at this level.] "Now we come to John Carter Jr. of Charleton Abbotts who was the son of John Carter of Neather Swell and who is listed as John Carter the Older Of Charleton Abbotts ...... yadda, yadda, yadda .... dozens of descendants ..... he confused himself! John the Elder of Charlton Abbots was a son of John of Netherswell per his last entry above. There were subsequent nephews named Giles but they were not the ones to marry Tracy! "Vic you are correct in saying that the Giles Carter married to Elizabeth Tracy was associated with the Tracy's before his marriage to Elizabeth. His Father John Carter's wife Mary Lawrence was the daughter of Robert Lawrence and Eleanora (Elinor) Stratford , Eleanor Stratfords Father Was John Stratford that was married to Margarett Tracy daughter of William Tracy , John Stratford's sister Alice was the Wife of Edmund Broadway , John Stratford's sister Margaret was the wife of Edward Baugh. This set of marriages to the Tracy begins to explain the travels of John of Badgeworth from Pryton at Churchdown, to Netherswell, to Badgeworth itself. We still need to see any marriage of a Carter of Cirencester to a Tracy! And to a Stratford! "I am still beleiving that it is also possible that Giles was from the Theodor Carter in Cirencester and that he may have been a descendant through Thomas Carter brother to Gyles and possibly through a son named Robert or Thomas ......... these Carter's also married into the Stratford family. [Does the Robert, Thomas, Gyles combination sound familiar?] Descendancy chart would be as follows: [absolutely contradicted by his GenForum posting of 8 Feb 2004: Joe Carter on GenForum 20 June 2005 - Giles of Henrico son of John III - per above chart, this just can not be! 1. Gyles Carter of Badgeworth and wife Margarett. Gyles had a brother named Thomas who had a son named Anthony proven by the Wills. Thomas also had possibly a son named Thomas and Robert that I am still working on.I have Gyles will 2. John Carter of Neatherswell will written in 1625 and probated 1627 Wife Mary Lawrence she was the daughter of Robert Lawrence and Elinor Stratford (later Elianore Sankey). I have wills of all three we know John and Mary were married before 1584 3. John Carter of Charlton Abbotts the older wife Ann married by 1611 based on indenture his older brother was Giles Carter married to Elizabeth Tracy married by 1606 based on indenture no children by them his younger brother was William Carter married to Bridgett. William had two known sons John married to the daughter of Bray Aylesworth and Edward who was married to a Goddard.I have wills of John ,Giles,William,John and Edward. 4. John Carter of Charlton Abbotts the younger had sons named John and Gyles [** see LaVere Peters - since Theo as father of Giles instant is now rather proven, this would appear to be an uncle of Giles of Henrico] from the will of the older John 5. Giles Carter of Henrico. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Miscellaneous Notes from Google Searches: In 1530, Sir William Tracy left a heretical Will, whereby he relied for his salvation on faith rather on the prayers of the Monks. The marriage of the Tracy daughter to John Stratford of Farmcote built a long lasting relationship with business and friendship, and, together with Richard Tracy, John Stratford assisted in the Dissolution of Hailes Abbey. Richard's father being brought up at Bushley, by the Stratford's. Richard Tracy acquired Stanway, at the Dissolution and his son Paul was created Baronet in the Reign of James the First, ( 1603 - 1625 ) and eventually passed to a younger son of Toddington. It is presently in the possession of the Earl of Wemys and March, who has a Tracy Pedigree. William Tracy of Hailes, who was involved greatly with the Stratford's of Bushley, was one of the first to help in the Colonisation of America, through his connection with the Virginian Company and in the year 1620 Sir Paul was in partnership with John Stratford of London, growing tobacco in the Winchcombe area of Gloucestershire. The Tracy Family history is a book on its own, and I will not attempt to pursue it further, except to state that when the Stratford family became financially estranged at Farmcote, it was Robert Tracy who bought the estate. Today's representative of this great Family is the Baron Sudeley. Paul TRACY Birth: in Stanway,Gloucestershire,England Death: 1626 in Gloucestershire,England Sir Paul Tracy, who succeeded to the manor of Stanway. He was created a baronet June 29, 1811, [ ....... 1611 of course ..........] by King James I., "being the thirteenth created from the institution of the order." He married first, Anne, daughter and heiress of Ralph Sharkeley, of Ayno-on-the-Hill, County of Northampton. They had twenty-one children. Father: Richard TRACY b: ABT 1493 in Tewkesbury,Gloucestershire,England Mother: Barbara LUCY Marriage 1 Anne SHARKERLEY Children Elizabeth TRACY b: in Stanway,Gloucester,England [m.Giles] The ancient manor of Stanway in the Cotswolds was presented to Tewkesbury Abbey in the year 715 by two Mercian leaders Odo and Dodo. It was the first and only remote property owned by the Abbey until the 12th century when land was acquired in Dorset. Stanway supported four monks. In 1533 Richard Tracy, the younger son of Sir William Tracy of Toddington obtained the lease of the manor from Abbot Segar. Richard is known to have led the commission that dissolved Hailes Abbey and it was around this time that he was able to purchase the freehold to Stanway. It was his son Paul who rebuilt the house incorporating some of the early Tudor house in it. This work started in about 1580. Paul Tracy was created Baronet in 1611 and died in 1620. His son, Sir Richard Tracy, continued building and it was he who had the magnificent gatehouse erected in 1630. He died however in 1637. Richard TRACY Birth: ABT 1493 in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire,England Death: 1569 in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire,England Note: He had a B.A. from Oxford and was a reformer, author, sheriff, justice, royal commissioner and member of parliament 1529-36. Father: William VIII TRACY ................ per above .............. Mother: Margaret THROCKMORTON Marriage 1 Barbara LUCY Paul TRACY b: in Stanway, Gloucestershire, England William of Toddington, married Throckmorton, (there were more than a fair share of William Tracy's) is the common ancestor of Paul and William Tracy who were both so active in the tobacco industry of both Gloucestershire and Virginia. Sources for this person: [6] http://www.rarebookreprints.com/norigins.html Giles Carter, who came to Virginia several years later than the others, and died in Henrico County in 1701 at the age of 67 years, leaving sons Giles and Theodorick, and daughters Mrs. Davis and Mrs. Williamson. So far as known he never held any military or political position, and is supposed to have belonged to the Gloucester Carters. His descendants were chiefly settled in Henrico, Goochland, Prince Edward, and Halifax counties. An interesting account of them has been published by Gen. W. H. G. Carter, U.S.A." http://genforum.genealogy.com/carter/messages/10676.html I have giles Carter born abt 1634 in England came to America 1656 died feb 2 1701 will probated Henrico co. va.his parents were Giles Carter and Elizabeth Tracy.Giles was married To A HANNAH[CREWES][AYRES]?CHILDREN WERE THEODRICK BORN ABT 1669 DIED 1737 Henrico co. va. married to Elizabeth Randolph [bland][webb],Susan born abt 1671 married 1st Daniel Price 2nd Thomas Williamson,Mary born abt 1674 married Thomas Davis, and Then GILES born abt 1682 Married To Mary Povall. HELP ME FILL IN BLANKS http://genforum.genealogy.com/carter/messages/10678.html Joseph: Looking back over you history I found this note. Need to share a couple of things. We are similar in that Giles married Hannah and I prefer to think it is Crewes. History supports this pretty well altho there is no proof as yet. This Giles came in 1653 passage paid by William Fry. He was born 1634 and will probabted 1700. Theodrick married Elizabeth Webb Randolph and he had children Ann, Susannah, Theodrick, Martha, Mary, Hannah, John and Elizabeth. Theodrick's siblings: Susannah, Mary and Ann and Giles born 1682 who married Mary Povall. The one thing you write of is a myth which persists and I can say this with authority. In the 1970's my father and I went to England. We visited a little English village called Cold Aston. There is a small church there, quite charming and very old. There are two ancient plaques on the wall there that commemorate Giles Carter who married Elizabeth Tracey. The first one you see hangs near the door and states that this was a very devoted and good couple who died "without issue" --NO CHILDREN. This is further substantiated by the other plaque which is back in a dark corner and states that Giles and Elizabeth left their holdings (estate) to two hephews--Edward and Goddard. We spent the rest of the week in and out of libraries and churches in the area. Nothing refutes those two plaques. Although it is possible to find other Giles' it is for all easy searches impossible to find out who Giles 1634-1700 was the son of or where he left England from. We assumed for our search that he left from Glousteshire and that PERHAPS he was from this family but he definetely is not the son of Giles and Elizabeth Tracy Carter. I look forward to hearing from you. Joy http://genforum.genealogy.com/carter/messages/14445.html Peyton Carter (ID *****9735) Date: March 27, 2003 at 10:02:20 of 22168 I have received confirmation from the records office in Gloucestershire, England, of the baptismal record of Giles Carter, who immigrated to Henrico County, Virginia. Here is the actual reply I received: "A member of staff checked the baptism register for the parish of Cirencester (P86) for the year 1635 and I can confirm that the baptism of Gyles, son of Theodor [?Theodore] Cartor is recorded. The spelling of names was not standardised until fairly recently and so the slight difference in spelling of both the christian and surnames is not significant." More importantly, the name of his father is revealed!
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  Family	Hannah Crews,   b. c 1638, Turkey Island, Henrico Co., Virginia
  Children	+ 1. Giles2 Carter, Jr.,   b. c 1686, Turkey Island, Henrico Co., Virginia ,   d. Aft 1760, Halifax County, North Carolina U.S.A.  (Age 75 years) + 2. Suzannah Carter,   b. c 1674 + 3. Theodorick2 Carter,   b. c 1676, Turkey Island, Henrico Co., Virginia ,   d. 1737, Henrico Co., Virginia  (Age 61 years)   4. Ann Carter,   b. c 1680   5. Mary Carter,   b. c 1678
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  [S67727] Mary Frances Reynolds Eggleston. Ancestors of Richard Carter http://genforum.genealogy.com/carter/messages/17501.html F: Giles of Henrico Carter 1635-04-24 Cirencester, Gloucestershire England 1701-02-12 Turkey Island, Henrico Co VA M: Hannah Crewe DAR ca. 1638-- Turkey Island, Henrico Co VA Married: 1670-- Turkey Island, Henrico Co VA Giles CARTER was born in 1634 in Gloucestershire, England. (1) He died about 1700 in Henrico County, Virginia. (287) His will dated 14 Sep 1699 and probated 2 Feb. 1701. To son Theodorick, 5 shillings, to be paid by my dear wife Hannah. To daughter, Susanna, now wife of Thomas WILLIAMSON, 5 shillings. To daughter Mary, now wife of Thomas DAVIS, 5 shillings. To daughter Ann, now wife of James DAVIS, personal items. To son Giles, one mare, it being formerly given to him by William SEWELL. Rest of estate to be divided between my wife Hannah and my son Giles. Son Giles to enjoy his own labor at age 18. Wife Hannah to be sole executor. Wit: Thomas Smythe, William Sewell, James Davis. He was married to Hannah CREWS about 1670 in Charles City County, Virginia.(1) Children were: Theodorick CARTER, Mary CARTER, Susanna CARTER, Ann CARTER, Giles CARTER Jr. [S67727] Mary Frances Reynolds Eggleston. http://genforum.genealogy.com/carter/messages/18683.html http://genforum.genealogy.com/carter/messages/18683.html Virginia Tuttle (ID *****9519) Date: June 06, 2007 at 00:10:22 In Reply to: Theodorick Carter, Pr. Edwd/Halifax, VA by Mary Clement Douglass of 22165 I think your Theodrick descends from Giles Carter, immigrant to Turkey Creek, Henrico Co.,VA. I am working on this line. There were two early Gile Carters that do not seem to be related. Sorry, no Robert (King) Carter of Capt. Thomas Carter of Lancaster Co.,Va. Descendants of Giles Carter Generation No. 1 1. GILES1 CARTER was born 1635 in Cirenchester, Glouchestershire, England, and died 12 Feb 1701 in Turkey Island, Henrico Co., VA. He married PROBABLY HANNAH CREWE 1670 in Turkey Island, Henrico Co.,VA. She was born Abt. 1650 in Henrico Co., Virginia. Notes for GILES CARTER: Source: Henrico Co., Va. Patent Book 3, p192 shows that Giles Carter came to Henrico Co., Va. Patent Book 3, page 192 as an endentured servant. "Mr. William Fry, 750 acres near the head of Chichamony River on SW side thereof, 7 April 1653. Beg. at Fleets quarter including a small indian field, for transporting 15 persons: Giles Carter, Ralph Spendlowe, Jane Walker, Miles Noble, Anne Williams, William Brooke, Ralph Burton, Andrew Miller, Alice Archer, the said Fry's wife and his three children, Dorothy Miller, William Hoccadie(?Hockaday)." This from another researcher, Peyton Carter, 1 Apr 2003. I have received confirmation from the records office in Gloucestershire, England, of the baptismal record of Giles Carter, who immigrated to Henrico County, Virginia. Here is the actual reply I received: "A member of staff checked the baptism register for the parish of Cirenchester (P86) for the year 1635 and I can confirm that the baptism of Gyles, son of Theodor [?Theodore] Cartor is recorded. The spelling of names was not standardised until fairly recently and so the slight difference in spelling of both the christian and surnames is not significant." Notes for (PROBABLY) HANNAH CREWE: Her father was probably John Crewe. More About GILES CARTER and PROBABLY CREWE: Marriage: 1670, Turkey Island, Henrico Co.,VA Children of GILES CARTER and PROBABLY CREWE are: 2. i. THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2 CARTER, b. Abt. 1672, Turkey Island, Henrico Co.,VA; d. Bef. 21 Jun 1738, Cumberland County , Virginia. ii. SUSANA CARTER, b. Abt. 1674, TurkeyIsland, Henrico Co., Va. 3. iii. THEODRICK CARTER, b. Abt. 1676, Turkey Island, Henrico Co.,VA; d. 1737, Henrico Co., Virginia. iv. MARY CARTER, b. Abt. 1678, Turkey Island, Henrico Co.,VA. v. ANN CARTER, b. Abt. 1680, Turkey Island, Henrico Co.,VA. vi. GILES CARTER, JR., b. Abt. 1682, Turkey Island, Henrico Co.,VA. Generation No. 2 2. THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2 CARTER (GILES1) was born Abt. 1672 in Turkey Island, Henrico Co.,VA, and died Bef. 21 Jun 1738 in Cumberland County , Virginia. He married (1) SUSANNAH. He married (2) MARY. He married (3) ?? PENELE CARTER Abt. 1692 in Virginia. Notes for THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER: Research Notes: According to Peyton Carter, Thomas Carter was married three times. 1 - "unknown" 2 - Penele Carrol (Also listed as Carrell and Carroll.) 3 - Susanna Baynes I do not know his source for this information. I do not know which wife was the mother of his children. Penele is the wife listed in his Will but the Will was written many years before he died. =Will of Thomas Carter Written November 2, 1726 Probated June 21, 1738 - Goochland County, Virginia Book 3, page 138, Deed & Wills, Goochland Co, VA On 2 Nov. 1726 Thomas Carter signed a will that recited: To eldest son Rober, 1 yearling cow To 2nd son Thoms, 1 yearling os To 3rd son John, 1 shilling To son Edward, 1 shilling To daughter Elizabeth Carte, 1 shilling To Joseph, all land I live on, 100 aces but he dies witout issue, then t my son Edward. Personal estate to wie Penele, and she to be executrix. The will was signed with a ful signature and was sitnessed by : Thomas Edwards,William Pledge, Dorothy Pledge. On Nov. 18 1729 Robert Carter of St. James Parish, Goochland Co., deed (Dd Bk1,144) to Susannah Hulsey, widow, of same Parish for 30 pounds, 100 aces of land on northside of James River between land of Henry Atkinson and John Webb, with all houses, etc., being land where Charles Hulsey did formerly dwell. Mary wife of Carter relinquished her dower right (OB 1/17). The deed was signed with a mark (R) and witnessed by: John Webb and Joseph Ashlin. In a deed recorded on the same day Susannah conveyed this land together with another 100 acres to son Charles Hulsey. She signed this deed with a mark. ************************ Settling in the British North American Colonies From Benjamin Franklin, who wrote in 1751: ?So vast is the Territory of North America that it will require many Ages to settle it fully and, till it is fully settled, Labour will never be cheap here, where no Man continues long a Labourer for others, but gets a Plantation of his own?. In the 1700s the British colonies in America grew rapidly in population and wealth. A former, somewhat crude, society acquired an elite that was somewhat polished and numerous. Trade and cities flourished. The 250,000 settlers who had lived in the newly formed mainland colonies in 1700, became 1,500,000 by 1750 and 2,250,000 by 1775, only 25 years later. Perhaps it is difficult to comprehend the times and events occurring in the very middle of the 18th century. George II was king of England, Scotland & Ireland, and was Hanoverian (German) in origin. In Europe, the waltz was becoming its most popular dance, and the first golf club, in Edinburgh, Scotland, was just 6 years old. In the colonies, the 5 major centers of affluence were Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Charleston, and Newport. The elite wore wigs, and slavery was an important part of the economy. The city of Richmond, Virginia was started in 1737, while Charlotte, North Carolina was just being settled in 1750. Benjamin Franklin was working on his lightning conductor. The Ohio River and Tennessee were just beginning to be explored. The beginnings of the American Revolution, the conflict where the colonists won their independence from Great Britain, were still 13 years away. George Washington was 18 years old, and Thomas Jefferson -- seven. The birth of the United States of America was 26 years away. Note: Goochland was formed from Henrico in 1728 and Cumberland was formed from southern portion of Goochland in 1749. Thomas's Will names Robert as his oldest son and Thomas as his second. Notes for ?? PENELE CARTER: Could Penele be short for Penelope ?? According to Peyton Carter, Thomas Carter was married three times. 1 - "unknown" 2 - Penele Carrol (Also listed as Carrell and Carroll.) 3 - Susanna Baynes I do not know his source for this information. I do not know which wife was the mother of his children. Penele is the wife listed in his Will but the Will was written many years before he died. More About THOMAS CARTER and ?? CARTER: Marriage: Abt. 1692, Virginia Children of THOMAS CARTER and ?? CARTER are: 4. i. ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3 CARTER, b. Abt. 1695, Henrico Co., Virginia; d. Bef. 28 May 1759, Cumberland County, Virginia. ii. THOMAS CARTER, b. Abt. 1697, Henrico Co., Virginia. 5. iii. JOHN (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER, b. Abt. 1699, Henrico Co., Virginia. 6. iv. EDWARD (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER, b. Abt. 1701, Henrico Co., Virginia; d. 1749. v. ELIZABETH (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER, b. Abt. 1703, Henrico Co., Virginia. vi. JOSEPH (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER, b. Abt. 1705, Henrico Co., Virginia. 3. THEODRICK2 CARTER (GILES1) was born Abt. 1676 in Turkey Island, Henrico Co.,VA, and died 1737 in Henrico Co., Virginia. He married ELIZABETH WEBB Abt. 1696 in Virginia. She was born 1680, and died 1751. Notes for ELIZABETH WEBB: Daughter of John Webb and Sarah Cock. More About THEODRICK CARTER and ELIZABETH WEBB: Marriage: Abt. 1696, Virginia Children of THEODRICK CARTER and ELIZABETH WEBB are: i. THEODRICK3 CARTER III, b. 1697, Henrico Co., Virginia; d. 1778. ii. HANNAH CARTER, b. Abt. 1700, Henrico Co., Virginia; m. JOHN WEBB III. iii. ANNE CARTER, b. 1702, Henrico Co., Virginia. iv. SARAH CARTER, b. 1704, Henrico Co., Virginia. v. MARTHA CARTER, b. 1706, Henrico Co., Virginia. vi. MARY CARTER, b. Abt. 1710, Henrico Co., Virginia. vii. JOHN CARTER, b. Abt. 1712, Henrico Co., Virginia. Generation No. 3 4. ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3 CARTER (THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born Abt. 1695 in Henrico Co., Virginia, and died Bef. 28 May 1759 in Cumberland County, Virginia. He married ?? MARY HULSEY. Notes for ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND) CARTER: Robert's wife's name is from Peyton Carter. I do not know his source. Carters of Cartersville, Cumberland, VA Will of Robert Carter Cumberland County, Virginia Will Book I - Page 183 dated 15 September 1753, Probated May 28, 1759 Notes for ?? MARY HULSEY: Children of ROBERT CARTER and ?? HULSEY are: 7. i. THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4 CARTER, b. Abt. 1731, Prob. Virginia; d. Bef. 08 Aug 1796, Mecklenburg County, Virginia. 8. ii. ROBERT "THE ELDER" CARTER, b. Prob. Virginia. 9. iii. CHARLES (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER, b. Cumberland County, Virginia. iv. JOHN (OF CUMBERLAND) CARTER, b. Prob. Virginia; m. JUDITH ??? HUDDLESTONE OR HUDDLESTON. Notes for JOHN (OF CUMBERLAND) CARTER: SOURCE: 1774 Buckingham Co tithes, Same references as abv, courtesy Kathy Wells Bailey Carter included with Asop Walker 3 tithes (could this be his brother-in-law or father-in-law?) John Carter including Huddleston Carter 2 tithes Geo Carter 1 tithe Joseph Carter 1 tithe STEPHEN CARTER 1 tithe If you are a Carter male and are not currently in a surname project but would like more information on what is happening, please see the following website. They are inviting all Carter males to participate in their project. http://www.carter-cousins.org/ v. SUSANNAH CARTER, b. Prob. Virginia. vi. MARY CARTER, b. Prob. Virginia. 5. JOHN (OF GOOCHLAND)3 CARTER (THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born Abt. 1699 in Henrico Co., Virginia. He married MARY FLEMING. Notes for JOHN (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER: Children of JOHN CARTER and MARY FLEMING are: i. JOHN (JR.)4 CARTER, b. Virginia. ii. WILLIAM CARTER, b. Virginia; d. 18 Sep 1848; m. SUSANNAH BIGGER. iii. NANCY CARTER, b. Virginia; m. WILLIAM CREASY, 26 Sep 1784. More About WILLIAM CREASY and NANCY CARTER: Marriage: 26 Sep 1784 iv. FLEMING CARTER, b. Virginia; m. (1) SARAH CARTER; m. (2) POLLY BLANKENSHIP. . EDWARD (OF GOOCHLAND)3 CARTER (THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born Abt. 1701 in Henrico Co., Virginia, and died 1749. He married MARY CARTER. Notes for EDWARD (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER: Will dated December 28, 1748 Recorded April 18, 1749 Child of EDWARD CARTER and MARY CARTER is: 10. i. JUDITH4 CARTER, b. Licking Hole, Goochland County, Virginia. Generation No. 4 7. THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4 CARTER (ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born Abt. 1731 in Prob. Virginia, and died Bef. 08 Aug 1796 in Mecklenburg County, Virginia. He married MARY ?. Notes for THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG) CARTER: Proof of Lineage for Robert is his Will of his father (but more research to be done) Proof of Lineage: Will of Thomas, names his children. Mecklenburg County, Virginia, Will Book 3, Page 367 - Last Will and Testament of Thomas Carter, dated 21 Dec. 1795. Probated 8 August 1796 reads: "To my son, John Carter, 150 acres of land in Granville County, North Carolina joining the land whereon I now live, and to my son, Charles Carter, 150 acres joining land I have willed my son, John -on Nutbush Creek. To my natural son, Thomas Carter, 100 acres of land, part of which I now live on. To my natural son, Charles Carter, 100 acres whereon he now lives. To beloved wife, Mary, balance of land for her life or widowhood and then to my son, John Carter. To daughter, Elizabeth Johnson, slave. To my daughter, Judith Kidd, a negro man named Cato. To my daughter, Sally Johnson, slave; a negro boy to Secretary Carter and Sarah Carter, children of Robert Carter. To my daughter, Mary Freeman, 10 pounds. Executors: sons John and Thomas Carter. Witnessess: William Hendrick, Stephen Hendrick, Jesse Carter, Secretary Carter. (Mecklenburg County Marriages by Elliott, Page 77- Oct. 18, 1781 -William Kidd to Judy Carter) William and Judy (Judith) moved to Oglethorpe Co.,Ga. This Thomas could have married a Mary Carter 10 May 1761 in Norfolk Co.,Va. but no proof exists that he was ever in Norfolk, Va. Notes for MARY ?: Most likely, the Thomas Carter who married Mary Kilpatrick was NOT the same Thomas Carter who left the Will in Mecklenburg County, Virginia in 1796. Children of THOMAS CARTER and MARY ? are: 11. i. ELIZABETH5 CARTER, b. Virginia; d. Mecklenburg County, Virginia. 12. ii. JUDITH "JUDY" CARTER. iii. MARY CARTER, m. JULIAS FREEMAN, 20 Dec 1791, Granville County, North Carolina. Carter, Mary Freeman, Julias 20 Dec 1791 Notes for JULIAS FREEMAN: Mecklenburg County, VA Records-- "Orphans or Wards Listed in the Guardian Book 1765--1800" Henry Fluman / Freeman was appointed guardian of Secretary Carter on 1-9-1792. More About JULIAS FREEMAN and MARY CARTER: Marriage: 20 Dec 1791, Granville County, North Carolina iv. SALLY CARTER, b. Virginia; m. MALE JOHNSON. 13. v. JOHN (OF OGLETHORPE) CARTER, b. Abt. 1751, Mecklenburg Co., Virginia; d. Bef. Mar 1838, Beaverdam Creek,Oglethorpe Co.,GA vi. CHARLES (OF OGLETHORPE) CARTER, b. 19 Apr 1752, Goochland County, Virginia; d. Bef. Jul 1842, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. 15. vii. THOMAS (OF OGLETHORPE) CARTER, b. Abt. 1765, Virginia; d. Bef. 05 May 1835, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. 8. ROBERT "THE ELDER"4 CARTER (ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Prob. Virginia. He married ?? 1- SUSAN EVANS ?? 2- LUCY CARTER. Notes for ROBERT "THE ELDER" CARTER: His father left him only one shilling in his Will. According to Peyton Carter, Robert's first wife was Susan Evans and Susan was the mother of Giles. I do not know his source for this. September 14, 1767 Mecklenburg County, Virginia Carter, Giles--"Giles Carter to Robert Carter and Lucy his wife...consisting of the quitrents from 100 acres yearly...100 acres on Keith's Branch...adjoining Jonathon Cunningham and Daniel Johnson...for their natural lives, but no longer. If said Robert Carter and his wife do settle on this land, this agreement is to be of full effect; but if they do not settle on the land then this agreement is void and of no effect." Signed: Giles Carter Wit: None recorded Dated 14 Sep 1767 Rec: 14 Sep 1767 Deed Book 1, p. 510 Mecklenburg County, VA March 13, 1775 Mecklenburg County, Virginia p. 404--Jan 14, 1775--from Giles Carter of Guilford Co., NC to Robert Carter, Jr. of Mecklenburg for 35 pounds about 200 acres in Mecklenburg on the south side of Keeth's Branch, it being all of the tract that Giles Carter purchased from Charles Carter and whereupon Robert Carter the elder now lives, and bounded by and between the lines of Daniel Johnson's orphans, Samuel Hopkins, Robert Burton Newton, John Hendrick, Thomas Stephens and James Kidd. Signed Giles Carter Witnesses: Edmund Taylor Howell Taylor John Taylor Thomas Lanier Rec: Mar 13, 1775 Notes for ?? 1- SUSAN EVANS ?? 2- LUCY CARTER: Lucy may have been a second wife so it is possible that she is not the mother of Giles Carter. Children of ROBERT CARTER and ?? CARTER are: 16. i. ROBERT (OF MECKLENBURG)5 CARTER, b. Virginia; d. Mecklenburg County, Virginia. ii. GILES (OF GUILFORD) CARTER, b. Prob. Virginia. Notes for GILES (OF GUILFORD) CARTER: According to Peyton Carter, Robert's first wife was Susan Evans and Susan was the mother of Giles. I do not know his source for this. The name Giles was a family name in the Cumberland County, Virginia area. March 13, 1775 Mecklenburg County, Virginia p. 404--Jan 14, 1775--from Giles Carter of Guilford Co., NC to Robert Carter, Jr. of Mecklenburg for 35 pounds about 200 acres in Mecklenburg on the south side of Keeth's Branch, it being all of the tract that Giles Carter purchased from Charles Carter and whereupon Robert Carter the elder now lives, and bounded by and between the lines of Daniel Johnson's orphans, Samuel Hopkins, Robert Burton Newton, John Hendrick, Thomas Stephens and James Kidd. Signed Giles Carter Witnesses: Edmund Taylor Howell Taylor John Taylor Thomas Lanier Rec: Mar 13, 1775 Guilford County, North Carolina February Court 1778 The within Last Will & Testament of John Hunter, Deceased, was proved in open Court by the oaths of George Peay & Giles Carter two of the subscribing Witnesses thereto & on motion was ordered to be resolved. Tests: Tho Henderson STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA GRANT BOOK 33 Guilford Co. 2509 pg. 122 Giles Carter 13 Nov. 1799 640 acres on the N side of Dan River (and) on two Creeks called Whitestones , joining (a point) near Edward Hunter , George Peay, and both sides of the sd. Whitestones 9. CHARLES (OF GOOCHLAND)4 CARTER (ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Cumberland County, Virginia. He married JUDITH CARTER 24 Jun 1756 in Cumberland County, Virginia, daughter of EDWARD CARTER and MARY CARTER. She was born in Licking Hole, Goochland County, Virginia. They could have been cousins. Notes for CHARLES (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER: Was Hezekiah Carter a son of Charles & Judith Carter??? October 11, 1764 Lunenburg County, Virginia 11 Oct 1764 - Charles Carter of Goochland Co. to Robert Burton Nuton [Newton] of Cumberland Co., 25 pounds, 400 acres; Lunenburg Co., by patent Henry Cox 14 Jun 1753 & Conveyed Joseph Adin in 1753 & deeded James Carter Juner in 1753 & conveyed said Charles Carter in 1763, on Heath's branch, adj. Richard Fox, Frances Rann [Wrenn?] Sig: Charles Carter Wit: Richard Rivers, James Shearer Judith, wife of Carter, relinquished her dower right. More About CHARLES CARTER and JUDITH CARTER: Marriage: 24 Jun 1756, Cumberland County, Virginia Child of CHARLES CARTER and JUDITH CARTER is: 17. i. WILLIAM5 CARTER, b. Virginia. 10. JUDITH4 CARTER (EDWARD (OF GOOCHLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Licking Hole, Goochland County, Virginia. She married CHARLES (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER 24 Jun 1756 in Cumberland County, Virginia, son of ROBERT CARTER and ?? HULSEY. He was born in Cumberland County, Virginia. Notes for CHARLES (OF GOOCHLAND) CARTER: Was Hezekiah Carter a son of Charles & Judith Carter??? October 11, 1764 Lunenburg County, Virginia 11 Oct 1764 - Charles Carter of Goochland Co. to Robert Burton Nuton [Newton] of Cumberland Co., 25 pounds, 400 acres; Lunenburg Co., by patent Henry Cox 14 Jun 1753 & Conveyed Joseph Adin in 1753 & deeded James Carter Juner in 1753 & conveyed said Charles Carter in 1763, on Heath's branch, adj. Richard Fox, Frances Rann [Wrenn?] Sig: Charles Carter Wit: Richard Rivers, James Shearer Judith, wife of Carter, relinquished her dower right. in their project. More About CHARLES CARTER and JUDITH CARTER: Marriage: 24 Jun 1756, Cumberland County, Virginia Child is listed above under (9) Charles (of Goochland) Carter. Generation No. 5 11. ELIZABETH5 CARTER (THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Virginia, and died in Mecklenburg County, Virginia. She married JOHN (SR.) JOHNSON. He died 1793 in Mecklenburg County, Virginia. Oglethorpe Co., GA is where the granddaughter of Elizabeth (Carter)JOHNSON wound up! Narcissa Weston JOHNSON d/o John, Jr. & Parmelia (Mayne) JOHNSON b. 10 April 1806 - VA (prob. Mecklenburg, Co., VA) d. April 1883 - Oglethorpe Co., GA m. 22 Dec. 1822, Henry Co., GA (formerly Walton Co.) - William EDWARDS (Jr.) of Oglethorpe Co., GA Children of ELIZABETH CARTER and JOHN JOHNSON are: i. JOHN (JR.)6 JOHNSON, b. Virginia; m. ?? PARMELIA MAYNE ?? MARTHA TOONE. Notes for JOHN (JR.) JOHNSON: "There are 4 John Johnson marriages listed in the Elliott book. If I had to pick one, I would go with the John Johnson who m. Martha Toone in 1810 since the surety was Thomas Johnson, the next son. I do NOT believe John Johnson, Jr. m. Parmelia Mayne. According to the Elliott book, that Johnson was from Charlotte County!" Notes for ?? PARMELIA MAYNE ?? MARTHA TOONE: Martha Toone 18. ii. MICHAEL "JR." JOHNSON, b. Virginia. iii. JESSEE JOHNSON, b. Virginia. iv. THOMAS JOHNSON, b. Virginia; d. 1846, Mecklenburg County, Virginia; m. AGNES KEETON, Mecklenburg County, Virginia. More About THOMAS JOHNSON and AGNES KEETON: Marriage: Mecklenburg County, Virginia v. WILLIAM JOHNSON, b. Virginia. vi. LEONARD JOHNSON, b. Virginia. vii. MOLLEY JOHNSON, m. STEVEN HENDRICK. 19. viii. SALLY JOHNSON. ix. BETSEY JOHNSON, m. THOMAS TALLY. x. LEAH JOHNSON, m. WILLIAM ELLINGTON. 12. JUDITH "JUDY"5 CARTER (THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) She married WILLIAM KIDD 08 Aug 1781 in Mecklenburg County, Virginia. He was born 16 Dec 1763 in Mecklinburg County, Virginia, and died in Oglethorpe County, Georgia. Notes for WILLIAM KIDD: He moved to Georgia in 1799. Oglethorpe County GaArchives William Kidd Revolutionary War Pension Application The Will of William Kidd http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710/Kiddwills/WmkidGa.html Oglethorpe County, Georgia June 13, 1843 More About WILLIAM KIDD and JUDITH CARTER: Marriage: 08 Aug 1781, Mecklenburg County, Virginia Children of JUDITH CARTER and WILLIAM KIDD are: 20. i. WEBB "MILES"6 KIDD, b. Virginia. ii. CARTER KIDD. Notes for CARTER KIDD: 1850 Jackson County, Georgia PAGE NO: 71A Wright, Johnson 57 M Wright, Robert J. 23 M Wright, Lucy A. 21 F Wright, George W. 33 M Wright, Judy A. 26 F Kidd, Carter 77 M Dean Tucker administrator of Carter Kidd's estate Oglethorpe County, Georgia August 20, 1861 - September 18, 1862 21. iii. WILLIAM F. KIDD, b. Virginia. 22. iv. LUCY KIDD. 23. v. ELIZABETH "BETSY" KIDD, b. Virginia. 24. vi. MARY "POLLY" KIDD. 13. JOHN (OF OGLETHORPE)5 CARTER (THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born Abt. 1751 in Mecklenburg Co., Virginia, and died Bef. Mar 1838 in Beaverdam Creek, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. He married (1) AMELIA ELKINS 23 Dec 1829 in Oglethorpe County, Georgia. He married (2) MARY "POLLY" STEVENS 12 Dec 1788 in Mecklenburg County, Virginia, daughter of THOMAS STEVENS and UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1751 in Probably Virginia, and died 1826 in Probably Georgia. Source: Have Marriage record of John and Miss Stevens in Mecklenburg Co.,VA Need to check to see if he fought in Amer. REv. or gave supplies. (There were about 5 different John Carters who fought from Virginia). 1830 Oglethorpe County, Georgia page 68 Capt Hargrove's District John Carter male 60-70 [1761-1770] female 50-60 [1771-1780] Will of John Carter, Oglethorpe County, Georgia March 20, 1838 Will witnessed by: George Lester, Wyatt Bulloch, Dicy O'Kelly Will of John Carter, Sept. 1838, Oglethorpe Co. GA In the name of God, Amen. I, John Carter, of the State of Georgia, Oglethorpe County, being sick and weak in body, but of perfect mind and memory, thanks be given unto God. Calling unto mind the mortality of my body, amd knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die, do make and ordain this my last will and testament, that is to say, principally and first of all. I give and recommend my soul into the hands of Almighty God that gave it, and my body I recommend to the earth to be buried in decent Christian burial at the direction of my executors, nothing doubting but at the general resurrection I shall receive the same again by the mighty power of God, and as touching such worldly estate wherewith it has pleased God to bless me in this life, I give and demise and dispose of the same in the following manner and form - First, I give and bequeath to my wife Amelia Carter, during her life time or widowhood, the tract of land I live on, to choose as much of the plantation yearly as she may want and where she want, the balance left of the plantation to be rented out by my executors, and the money arising from the rent to be applied to the keeping up and repairing said plantation, if necessary. Also one bed, bedstead, and furniture, one table and cupboard, sideboard, sitting chairs, and as much of the household and kitchen furniture as she may choose, as many of the plantation tools as she may choose, also my carriage and gray horse, two choice cows and calves, one sow and shoats and as many of my hogs as will make her meat next year, two ewes out of my stock of sheep, corn fodder, wheat, oats, one hundred dollars in cash, one Negroe man, Jacob, and girl, Judy. Also three hundred and fifty dollars loaned out and note payable to me, which was her own money, and all the furniture and articles she brought here as own. Also the bed furniture she has made since she came here. 2nd: I give and bequeath to Wylie Carter one hundred dollars. 3rd: I give and bequeath to Paul Carter one hundred dollars. 4th: I give and bequeath to Magnus Carter one hundred dollars. 5th: I give and bequeath to William Carter, my son-in-law, one hundred dollars. 6th: I give and bequeath to James Pinson, my son-in-law, fifty dollars. I have previous to this given him fifty dollars. 7th: Thomas Carter, my son-in-law, is not entitled, as I have paid previous to this, to my daughter Hixey, the hundred dollars. If any money left after the pay of the hundred each to make them equal, it is to be equally divided between my legatees. 8th: The balance of my property not specially bequeathed, both real and personal, the Negroes Jack, Simon, Charles, Tilda, Cherry, Clary, Carroline, Elender, I desire my legatees equally divide them among themselves with a sale if they can. The two lots in Cherokee County and one in Lee County to be equally divided between them. The balance of my stock, household, and kitchen furniture, plantation tools, cotton gin and thrasher, blacksmith tools, to be equally divided amongst them. The land and Negroes bequeathed to my wife during her lifetime or widowhood, after her death or intermarriage, the property to be equally divided amongst my legatees. 9th: I constitute, make, and ordain Amelia Carter, Wylie Carter, and Paul Carter the sole executors of this, my last will and testament, and I do hereby utterly disallow, revoke, and disannul all and every other former testaments, wills, legacies bequeathed, ratifying and confirming this and no other to be my last will and testament, in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this twentieth day of March, one thousand eight hundred and thirty-eight. John Carter (seal) Signed, sealed, and declared in presence of us, Geo. Lester, Wyatt Bulloch, Dicy O'Kelly Georgia, Oglethorpe County, Court of Ordinary, September Term, 1838 The within last will and testament of John Carter, having been duly proven at this Regular Term of the Court upon the oaths of Wyatt Bulloch and George Lester, ordered that the same be admitted to record. Recorded 4th day of Sept. 1838. Henry Britain, C. C. O. More About JOHN (OF OGLETHORPE) CARTER: Date born 2: 1761, Virginia Died 2: 1838, Oglethorpe Co., Georgia Notes for AMELIA ELKINS (2nd wife of John Carter) ?? Widow of William Elkins ?? More About JOHN CARTER and AMELIA ELKINS Marriage: 23 Dec 1829, Oglethorpe County, Georgia Mary Stevens Mecklenburg County, Deed Book 7, Page 132 reads 8 Jun 1787 - Deed of Gift from Mary Stevens of County of Mecklenburg to her beloved grandson, William Kidd, for natural love and affection of 200 acres of land in said County near Nutbush Creek adjoining land of James Kidd, the County line - John Tanner's line, etc. Recorded 11 June 1787. Note: This Mary was a Stevens, not a Carter in 1787 and the William Kidd who married Judith Carter was her granddaughter's husband. NOTE: This was evidently the mother of the Mary Stevens who married John. Marriage: 12 Dec 1788, Mecklenburg County, Virginia Children of JOHN CARTER and MARY STEVENS are: 25. i. WYLIE6 CARTER, b. Abt. 1789, Virginia; d. Bef. 1880. ii. PAUL CARTER, b. Abt. 1795, Virginia; m. WINNEY BRIDGES, 16 Nov 1815, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. Notes for PAUL CARTER: =================================== 1830 Oglethorpe County page 77 - Capt Hardiman's District Paul Carter male 30-40 [1790-1800] female 30-40 [1790-1800] male 10-15 [1815-1820] male 10-15 [1815-1820] female 10-15 [1815-1820] female 5-10 [1820-1825] female 5-10 [1820-1825] female <5 [1825-1830] female <5 [1825-1830] female <5 [1825-1830] =================================== Oglethorpe County, Georgia 1840 Paul Carter Family male 40-50 female 30-40 male 20-30 female 20-30 female 15-20 female 15-20 female 10-15 female 10-15 female 5-10 female 5-10 male <5 male <5 female <5 If anyone out there is participating in a Carter Surname (Y-DNA) Project, please contact me. I would love to hear about your results. ... If you are a Carter male and are not currently in a surname project but would like more information on what is happening, please see the following website. They are inviting all Carter males to participate in their project. http://www.carter-cousins.org/ *http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2304714&id=I07040 Name: Paul CARTER Children: Josephine Catherine CARTER b: 12 FEB 1833 in Oglethorpe Co., Georgia Jarmon CARTER b: ABT 1818 in Georgia More About PAUL CARTER and WINNEY BRIDGES: Marriage: 16 Nov 1815, Oglethorpe County, Georgia 26. iii. MARY HOLLY CARTER, b. Abt. 1797, Virginia; d. Aft. 1880, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. 27. iv. EDNA EDNY CARTER, b. Georgia. 28. v. HICKSEY HIXEY CARTER, b. Abt. 1790, Virginia; d. Aft. 1860, Probably Polk Co.,GA. 29. vi. MAGNUS CARTER, b. 12 Oct 1800, Mecklenburg Co., VA; d. 23 Apr 1886, Oglethorpe Co., Georgia. 14. CHARLES (OF OGLETHORPE)5 CARTER (THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born 19 Apr 1752 in Goochland County, Virginia, and died Bef. Jul 1842 in Oglethorpe County, Georgia. He married SUSANNAH ROBERTSON 19 Aug 1782 in Granville County, North Carolina, daughter of JAMES ROBERTSON and MARY ?. Notes for CHARLES (OF OGLETHORPE) CARTER: Granville County, North Carolina Marriages Roberson, Susannah Carter, Charles 19 Aug 1782 Date and place of birth from court records relating to Revolutionary Pension Application. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/ oglethorpe/military/revwar/pensions/carterchas.txt reads "Carter, Charles, S31593, NC Line, sol was b. 19 Apr 1752 in Goochland Cty, Va and lived in Granville Cty, NC at enl and after the war sol lived in Va a short time then moved to Ga, appl. 4 Sept 1832 Oglethorpe Cty, Ga where he had lived 30 years" Lived in Granville County, North Carolina during the Revolutionary War. Moved to Georgia around 1802. From book "Marriages of Granville Co., NC 1753-1868" p. 53 Carter, Charles & Susanna Roberson 19 Aug 1782; William Skelton, bondsman; Bennet Searcy, witness In the 1827 Georgia Lottery he is listed as "Carter, Charles Sr R.S." so there may have been a son, Charles Jr., who died young. This Charles Jr. may be the second Charles Carter listed in the 1820 census. Note: M.Y. thinks son Edward was the Jr. Household of Charles Carter 1830 Oglethorpe County, Georgia male of 70 and under 80 [b. 1751-1760] female of 60 and under 70 [b. 1761-1770] male of 30 and under 40 [b. 1791-1800] female of 20 and under 30 [b. 1801-1810] male under the age of 5 [b. 1826-1830] http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaogleth/carter.htm Witnesses to his Will Charles G. Hargrove, James Carter, Jesse Carter Charles Will was dated 20 April 1842 and recorded 6 July 1842 in Oglelthorpe Co., Ga. it reads "I give unto my beloved son Robert G. Carter all my land that I hold in the said county of Oglethorpe except one square acre where the burying ground is now. I give unto my son Robert G. Carter the one half of my cows and calves, the one half of all my hogs of every description, the one half of my stock of sheep and also my cotton gin and running gear and also one half of all the plantation tools of every description and the one half of all my running gear and also one half of all the plantation tools of every description and the one half of all my kitchen furniture of every description. After my death the negroes and balance of the stock, my land in Early and also my tract of land in Lee and Sumpter County and all the rest of my property that I have not disposed of to be disposed of in the following manner. To be equally divided with Francis Kidd, Edward Carter, Robert G. Carter, Mary Dupree, Nancy Kidd, Elizabert Farmer's children and Holly Gray. Exr. Edward Carter, Robert G. Carter Wit: Charles G. Hargrove, James Carter, Jesse Carter. Notes for SUSANNAH ROBERTSON: Her father was John Roberson. Will - Granville County, North Carolina written: April 8, 1773 Court: May 1774 Abstracted from Granvillle Co., NC., Deed Books 1746-1828 Robertson, Mary - estate: agreement signed y her heirs regarding two Negroes Gabriel and Lucy to James Robertson; Ritter and David to Charles Carter, Aggy and Moses to William Akin (Article of Agreement 1811, pp.17-18, book W). This indicates that Charles Carter was living at that time in Granville Co., N.C. From book "Marriages of Granville Co., NC 1753-1868" p. 53 Carter, Charles & Susanna Roberson 19 Aug 1782; William Skelton, bondsman; Bennet Searcy, witness More About CHARLES CARTER and SUSANNAH ROBERTSON: Marriage: 19 Aug 1782, Granville County, North Carolina Children of CHARLES CARTER and SUSANNAH ROBERTSON are: 30. i. NANCY6 CARTER, b. Virginia. 31. ii. ROBERT G. CARTER, b. Virginia. 32. iii. FRANCES CARTER. iv. ELIZABETH CARTER, m. HENRY FARMER, 28 Mar 1816, Oglethorpe County, Georgia; b. Virginia. More About HENRY FARMER and ELIZABETH CARTER: Marriage: 28 Mar 1816, Oglethorpe County, Georgia v. HOLLY CARTER, b. Virginia; m. GEORGE WASHINGTON GRAY, 09 Dec 1818, Oglethorpe County, Georgia; b. Georgia. Notes for HOLLY CARTER: 1850 United States Federal Census George Gray Tishomingo, MS abt 1799 Georgia Holly Gray Tishomingo, MS abt 1800 Virginia Charles Gray Tishomingo, MS abt 1833 Georgia Edward Gray Tishomingo, MS abt 1838 Georgia Notes for GEORGE WASHINGTON GRAY: 1850 United States Federal Census George Gray Tishomingo, MS abt 1799 Georgia Holly Gray Tishomingo, MS abt 1800 Virginia Charles Gray Tishomingo, MS abt 1833 Georgia Edward Gray Tishomingo, MS abt 1838 Georgia More About GEORGE GRAY and HOLLY CARTER: Marriage: 09 Dec 1818, Oglethorpe County, Georgia vi. MARY CARTER, m. JOHN DUPREE, 20 Sep 1806, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. More About JOHN DUPREE and MARY CARTER: Marriage: 20 Sep 1806, Oglethorpe County, Georgia 33. vii. EDWARD (OF WALTON) CARTER, b. 08 Sep 1785, Virginia; d. 05 Apr 1877, Walton County, Georgia. 15. THOMAS (OF OGLETHORPE)5 CARTER (THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born Abt. 1765 in Virginia, and died Bef. 05 May 1835 in Oglethorpe County, Georgia. He married ELIZABETH DOGGETT. Notes for THOMAS (OF OGLETHORPE) CARTER: Will of Thomas Carter Oglethorpe County, Georgia February 23, 1829 http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/oglethorpe/wills/c6360002.txt The witnesses to his Will: Charles Carter, Edward Carter, and Robert Carter Thomas Carter's will was dated 23 Feb. 1829 and recorded 5 May 1835 it reads: "I give unto my beloved wife Elizabeth Carter all my stock, household and kitchen furniture. I also give the tract of land whereon I now live adjoining James Johnson and others, her lifetime and after her death I give and bequeath the said tract of land to my sons Jesse Carter and William Carter to them and their heirs forever. I give and bequeath unto my son Thomas, one feather bed to him and his heirs forever at his mothers death or before if his mother thinks proper and after my wife's death what is left to be eqully divided among all my children. Exr. Jesse Carter, William Carter Wit: Charley Carter, Edward Carter, Robert G. Carter. Notes for ELIZABETH DOGGETT: According to Janet, Elizabeth Carter, the wife of Thomas Carter, was Elizabeth (Griggs) Doggett b. abt. 1755, prob. VA; d. aft. 1830 Oglethorpe Co, GA. http://home2learn.tripod.com/carter.htm Does this mean Griggs was a second marriage after Carter? Or a first marriage before Carter?? Children of THOMAS CARTER and ELIZABETH DOGGETT are: 34. i. WILLIAM6 CARTER, b. Virginia; d. Oglethorpe County, Georgia. 35. ii. THOMAS (OF POLK) CARTER, JR., b. Abt. 1780, VirginiA; d. Aft. 1860, Probably Polk Co.,Ga. 36. iii. JESSE (SR.) CARTER, b. Virginia. iv. CHARLIE? CARTER. v. EDWARD ? CARTER. vi. ROBERT G.? CARTER. 16. ROBERT (OF MECKLENBURG)5 CARTER (ROBERT "THE ELDER"4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Virginia, and died in Mecklenburg County, Virginia. He married ??? MOLLY CARTER. Notes for ROBERT (OF MECKLENBURG) CARTER: I'm not certain this is the same Robert Carter. This is just a guess. Mecklenburg County, Virginia 1786 - Carter, Robert Est http://www.rootsweb.com/~vameckle/willindex/C_69.htm Appr 1786 Carter Robert Est 2 180 Appr 1787 Do Robert Est 2 213 Acct Sales 1798 Do Robert Est 3 109 Mecklenburg County, VA Records-- "Orphans or Wards Listed in the Guardian Book 1765--1800" Henry Fluman / Freeman was appointed guardian of Secretary Carter on 1-9-1792 Notes for ??? MOLLY CARTER: **** This is just a guess!!!! I'm guessing that Molly Carter is the widow of Robert Carter. ... http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgranvi/marriage/bride-c.htm Granville County, North Carolina Marriages Carter, Molly Freeman, Henry 28 Dec 1791 Mecklenburg County, VA Records-- "Orphans or Wards Listed in the Guardian Book 1765--1800" Henry Fluman / Freeman was appointed guardian of Secretary Carter on 1-9-1792. Children of ROBERT CARTER and ??? CARTER are: 37. i. SECRETARY6 CARTER, b. Virginia; d. Walton County, Georgia. ii. SARAH "SALLY" CARTER. 17. WILLIAM5 CARTER (CHARLES (OF GOOCHLAND)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Virginia. He married NANCY SCOTT. Child of WILLIAM CARTER and NANCY SCOTT is: 38. i. DANIEL SAMUEL6 CARTER, b. Virginia. Generation No. 6 18. MICHAEL "JR."6 JOHNSON (ELIZABETH5 CARTER, THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Virginia. He married FEMALE JOHNSON. Child of MICHAEL JOHNSON and FEMALE JOHNSON is: i. ???7 JOHNSON. 19. SALLY6 JOHNSON (ELIZABETH5 CARTER, THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) She married HEZEKIAH PITCHFORD. Children of SALLY JOHNSON and HEZEKIAH PITCHFORD are: i. BRANCH7 PITCHFORD. ii. WELLS PITCHFORD. iii. DAVID PITCHFORD. iv. MILES PITCHFORD. v. ELIZABETH PITCHFORD. 20. WEBB "MILES"6 KIDD (JUDITH "JUDY"5 CARTER, THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Virginia. He married (1) MALINDA KIDD. She was born in Georgia. He married (2) MARY J. KIDD. Notes for WEBB "MILES" KIDD: ============================= 1830 Oglethorpe County, Georgia Capt Wright's District Family of Webb Kidd male 60-70 [1760-1770] male 30-40 [1790-1800] female 30-40 [1790-1800] ========================== http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/ga/oglethorpe/1850/pg031b.txt 1850 Oglethorpe County, Georgia 530 531 Miles Kidd 52 M VA Malinda Kidd 43 F GA Nichodemos Kidd 17 M GA ========================== Kidd Konnections The Will of William Kidd http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710/Kiddwills/WmkidGa.html Notes for MALINDA KIDD: 1850 Oglethorpe County, Georgia 530 531 Miles Kidd 52 M VA Malinda Kidd 43 F GA Nichodemos Kidd 17 M GA Notes for MARY J. KIDD: ======================================================================== 1860 Jackson County, Georgia 388 383 Kidd, Mary J. 30 F Seamstress Georgia Kidd, William 4 M Georgia ======================================================================== Child of WEBB KIDD and MALINDA KIDD is: i. NICHODEMUS OR NICODEMUS ROBERT7 KIDD, b. Georgia; d. 10 Sep 1861; m. SARAH ANN CARTER, 18 Dec 1850, Oglethorpe County, Georgia; b. 23 Mar 1834, Oglethorpe County, Georgia; d. 03 Jul 1917, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. Notes for NICHODEMUS OR NICODEMUS ROBERT KIDD: =================================== Oglethorpe County, Georgia 1850 census: | Miles Kidd | 52 M | Farmer 100 | VA | | Malinda Kidd | 43 F | | GA | | Nichodemos Kidd | 17 M | Farmer | GA | ============================= 1860 Federal Census Madison County, Georgia http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/madison/census/1860/0197.gif ============================= Private Nicodemus R. Kidd enlisted July 11, 1861 http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/madison/military/civilwar/madgreys.txt Company A, 16th Regiment Georgia Volunteer Infantry Army of Northern Virginia C.S.A. Madison County, Georgia "Madison County Greys" KIDD, Nicodemus R. -- Private July 11, 1861. Died of disease in camp near Richmond, Va., Sept. 10, 1861. ============================= I don't believe in ghosts but I was once told a ghost story about Nicodemus Robert Kidd. Actually, I don't know that he went by the name "Nicodemus". He is listed in the 1850 Census by that name but his wife's tombstone says "Robert". The story goes like this. It was during the Civil War. One of the small children, I think it was one of the girls but I'm not sure, wanted to visit a neighboring farm but the child was too small to go alone so an adult was sent to accompany the child. When they reached the fence, the child screamed and ran back home. When the child calmed down enough to talk, she said she saw her Daddy's ghost sitting on the fence post. Not long after that they received word that Nicodemus Robert had died. Like I said, I don't believe in ghosts but I think it makes an interesting story. ============================== Notes for SARAH ANN CARTER: According to the 1880 census, both of her parents were born in Virginia. ========================================================================= 1870 Clarke, GA ========================================================================= 1880 United States Census, Grove Hill, Madison County, Georgia Page Number 22C James A. LESTER Self M Male 23 GA Farmer GA GA Holley M. G. LESTER Wife M Female 26 GA Keeping House GA GA Hattie LESTER Dau S Female 8M GA GA GA Sarah A. KIDD Mother W Female 46 GA At Home VA VA ========================================================================= * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sarah Ann Carter was in Maternal Haplogroup "H" (The clan of Helena). For more information on Maternal Haplogroups, see the following websites. http://www.oxfordancestors.com/your-maternal.html http://www.familytreedna.com/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================ Buried: Holly Carter Cemetery; Dunlap, Oglethorpe County, Georgia Tombstone: "We trust our loss will be her gain, And that with Christ she's gone to reign. wife of Robert Kidd" ============================ More About NICHODEMUS KIDD and SARAH CARTER: Marriage: 18 Dec 1850, Oglethorpe County, Georgia Child of WEBB KIDD and MARY KIDD is: ii. WILLIAM C.7 KIDD, b. Georgia. Notes for WILLIAM C. KIDD: William C. Kidd was a minor child at the time of his father's death. ======================================================================== I have no idea if the William Kidd entries listed below are the actual William Kidd in question but I include them here as possibilities. ======================================================================== 1860 Jackson County, Georgia 388 383 Kidd, Mary J. 30 F Seamstress Georgia Kidd, William 4 M Georgia ======================================================================== 1870 United States Federal Census Wm C Kidd Birth: abt 1856 - Jackson County, Georgia ======================================================================== 1880 United States Census, Banks County, Georgia Page Number 321D William KIDD Self M Male W 24 GA Farmer VA GA Alice KIDD Wife M Female W 20 GA Keeps House GA GA Colnol KIDD Son S Male W 3 GA GA GA Pall KIDD Son S Male W 1 GA GA GA ======================================================================== I'm assuming the "Pall" should be "Paul" but I have no idea what "Colnol" is supposed to be. 21. WILLIAM F.6 KIDD (JUDITH "JUDY"5 CARTER, THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Virginia. He married (1) FEMALE KIDD. She was born in Virginia. He married (2) NANCY CARTER 27 Dec 1813 in Oglethorpe Co.,GA, daughter of CHARLES CARTER and SUSANNAH ROBERTSON. She was born in Virginia. Notes for WILLIAM F. KIDD: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/ga/oglethorpe/1850/pg031b.txt 1850 Oglethorpe County, Georgia Sheet No: 38B William F. Kidd 64 M VA Nancy Kidd 52 F VA Martha M. Kidd 37 F GA Robert Kidd 29 M GA William Kidd 27 M GA Charles Kidd 25 M GA Susan Kidd 23 F GA Francis Kidd 21 F GA Notes for NANCY CARTER: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/ga/jackson/1860/pg00198.txt 1860 Federal Census Jackson County, Georgia 446 441 Hidd, Robert C. 41 M Georgia Hidd, Mary A. 26 F Georgia Hidd, Nancy E. 7 F Georgia Hidd, Judy F. 5 F Georgia Hidd, Sarah S. 1 F Georgia Hidd, Charles N. 34 F Georgia Hidd, Francis E. 25 F Georgia Hidd, Nancy 66 F Georgia More About WILLIAM KIDD and NANCY CARTER: Marriage: 27 Dec 1813, Oglethorpe Co.,GA Children of WILLIAM KIDD and FEMALE KIDD are: i. PEYTON S.7 KIDD, b. Georgia; m. MARY KIDD; b. Georgia. ii. MARTHA M. KIDD, b. Georgia. Children of WILLIAM KIDD and NANCY CARTER are: iii. WILLIAM H.7 KIDD, b. Georgia; m. ELIZABETH KIDD, Georgia. Notes for WILLIAM H. KIDD: 1860 Oglethorpe County, Georgia 393 391 Kidd, William H. 35 M Farmer Ga. Kidd, Elizabeth 21 F Ga. Kidd, William 2 M Ga. 1880 United States Census, Oglethorpe County, Georgia Page Number 328A William H. KIDD Self Male 59 GA Farmer VA VA Elizabeth KIDD Wife Female 42 GA Keeping House VA VA William T. KIDD Son Male 21 GA Farm Labor GA GA Nancy KIDD Dau Female 14 GA Farm Labor GA GA Lucy G. KIDD Dau Female 10 GA Farm Labor GA GA Eureka L. KIDD Dau Female 7 GA GA GA More About WILLIAM KIDD and ELIZABETH KIDD: Marriage: Georgia iv. ROBERT C. KIDD, b. Georgia; m. (1) LUCY A. WRIGHT; b. Georgia; m. (2) MARY A. KIDD; b. Georgia. Notes for ROBERT C. KIDD: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/ga/jackson/1860/pg00198.txt 1860 Federal Census Jackson County, Georgia 446 441 Hidd, Robert C. 41 M Georgia Hidd, Mary A. 26 F Georgia Hidd, Nancy E. 7 F Georgia Hidd, Judy F. 5 F Georgia Hidd, Sarah S. 1 F Georgia Hidd, Charles N. 34 F Georgia Hidd, Francis E. 25 F Georgia Hidd, Nancy 66 F Georgia v. CHARLES N. KIDD, b. Georgia. 1860 Federal Census Jackson County, Georgia 446 441 Hidd, Robert C. 41 M Georgia Hidd, Mary A. 26 F Georgia Hidd, Nancy E. 7 F Georgia Hidd, Judy F. 5 F Georgia Hidd, Sarah S. 1 F Georgia Hidd, Charles N. 34 F Georgia Hidd, Francis E. 25 F Georgia Hidd, Nancy 66 F Georgia 1880 United States Census, Jackson County, Georgia Page Number 644A Robert WRIGHT Self Male 63 GA Farmer GA VA Elizabeth S. WRIGHT Wife Female 53 GA Keeping House VA VA Lucy A. WRIGHT Dau Female 18 GA GA GA Charles KIDD BroL Male 56 GA VA VA vi. FRANCIS E. KIDD, b. Georgia. vii. ELIZABETH SUSAN KIDD, b. Georgia; m. ROBERT S. WRIGHT; b. Georgia. Notes for ELIZABETH SUSAN KIDD: 1880 United States Census, Jackson County, Georgia Page Number 644A Robert WRIGHT Self Male 63 GA Farmer GA VA Elizabeth S. WRIGHT Wife Female 53 GA Keeping House VA VA Lucy A. WRIGHT Dau Female 18 GA GA GA Charles KIDD BroL Male 56 GA VA VA Notes for ROBERT S. WRIGHT: 1860 Federal Census Jackson County, Georgia 441 436 Wright, Robert J. 30 M Georgia Wright, Elizabeth S. 30 F Georgia Wright, Eliza A. 40 F Georgia Wright, Harwell C. 8 M Georgia Wright, Georgia A. 7 F Georgia 1880 United States Census, Jackson County, Georgia Page Number 644A Robert WRIGHT Self M Male 63 GA Farmer GA VA Elizabeth S. WRIGHT Wife M Female 53 GA Keeping House VA VA Lucy A. WRIGHT Dau S Female 18 GA GA GA Charles KIDD BroL S Male 56 GA VA VA 22. LUCY6 KIDD (JUDITH "JUDY"5 CARTER, THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) She married JOHNSON WRIGHT. He was born in Georgia. Notes for JOHNSON WRIGHT: 1850 Jackson County, Georgia, Page 71A Wright, Johnson 57 M Wright, Robert J. 23 M Wright, Lucy A. 21 F Wright, George W. 33 M Wright, Judy A. 26 F Kidd, Carter 77 M Madison Co., GA Marriage Index Book B (1843-1876) Wright, Johnson Cleghorne, Margaret 94 Children of LUCY KIDD and JOHNSON WRIGHT are: i. ROBERT S.7 WRIGHT, b. Georgia; m. ELIZABETH SUSAN KIDD; b. Georgia. Notes for ROBERT S. WRIGHT: 1860 Federal Census Jackson County, Georgia 441 436 Wright, Robert J. 30 M Georgia Wright, Elizabeth S. 30 F Georgia Wright, Eliza A. 40 F Georgia Wright, Harwell C. 8 M Georgia Wright, Georgia A. 7 F Georgia 1880 United States Census, Jackson County, Georgia Page Number 644A Robert WRIGHT Self M Male 63 GA Farmer GA VA Elizabeth S. WRIGHT Wife M Female 53 GA Keeping House VA VA Lucy A. WRIGHT Dau S Female 18 GA GA GA Charles KIDD BroL S Male 56 GA VA VA Notes for ELIZABETH SUSAN KIDD: 1880 United States Census, Jackson County, Georgia Page Number 644A Robert WRIGHT Self Male 63 GA Farmer GA VA Elizabeth S. WRIGHT Wife Female 53 GA Keeping House VA VA Lucy A. WRIGHT Dau Female 18 GA GA GA Charles KIDD BroL Male 56 GA VA VA ii. LUCY A. WRIGHT, b. Georgia; m. ROBERT C. KIDD; b. Georgia. 1860 Federal Census Jackson County, Georgia 446 441 Hidd, Robert C. 41 M Georgia Hidd, Mary A. 26 F Georgia Hidd, Nancy E. 7 F Georgia Hidd, Judy F. 5 F Georgia Hidd, Sarah S. 1 F Georgia Hidd, Charles N. 34 F Georgia Hidd, Francis E. 25 F Georgia Hidd, Nancy 66 F Georgia iii. GEORGE W. WRIGHT, b. Georgia; m. JUDY A. WRIGHT; b. Georgia. iv. NICHODEMUS K. WRIGHT, b. Georgia; m. SOPHRONIA A. WRIGHT; b. Georgia. Notes for NICHODEMUS K. WRIGHT: My guess is that his middle initial of K. was for Kidd. http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/ga/jackson/1850/Pg0035a.txt One of N.K.'s daughters married a Briscoe. It may have been Lucy or it may have been another daughter I have not yet found. 23. ELIZABETH "BETSY"6 KIDD (JUDITH "JUDY"5 CARTER, THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Virginia. She married DEAN TUCKER. He was born in Virginia. Notes for DEAN TUCKER: 1850 Oglethorpe County, Georgia 514 515 Dean Tucker 50 M VA Elizabeth Tucker 57 F VA Inda Tucker 18 F GA Lucy Tucker 16 F GA Children of ELIZABETH KIDD and DEAN TUCKER are: i. WILLIAM T.7 TUCKER, b. Georgia; m. JANE TUCKER; b. Georgia. ii. FEMALE TUCKER, b. Georgia. iii. LORENUS W. TUCKER, b. Georgia; m. NANCY TUCKER; b. Georgia. iv. JUDA "INDA" TUCKER, b. Georgia. v. LUCY TUCKER, b. Georgia. 24. MARY "POLLY"6 KIDD (JUDITH "JUDY"5 CARTER, THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) She married EDWARD (OF WALTON) CARTER 14 Dec 1805 in ?? Virginia or Georgia ??, son of CHARLES CARTER and SUSANNAH ROBERTSON. He was born 08 Sep 1785 in Virginia, and died 05 Apr 1877 in Walton County, Georgia. Notes for MARY "POLLY" KIDD: She died before her father drafted his will on June 13, 1843. 1830 Household of Edward Carter 0011001000000 0011001 male 40-50 [1780 - 1790] female 40-50 [1780 - 1790] male 15-20 [1810 - 1815] female 15-20 [1810 - 1815] male 10-15 [1815 - 1820] female 10-15 [1815 - 1820] Three sons for Edward Carter have been named but only two young males are listed in the 1830 census and in the 1840 census. The oldest son, Williamson, would have been about 15 years old in 1830. He must have left home at a very early age -- possibly living with relatives. Edward moved to Walton County, Georgia between 1840 and 1850. Buried Tucker-Smith Cemetery Broadnax Mill Road Between, Walton County, Georgia If anyone out there is participating in a Carter Surname (Y-DNA) Project, please contact me. I would love to hear about your results. If you are a Carter male and are not currently in a surname project butwould like more information on what is happening, please see the following website. They are inviting all Carter males to participate in their project. You can order a DNA kit by sending an email to "info@ftmdna.com" http://www.carter-cousins.org/ More About EDWARD CARTER and MARY KIDD: Marriage: 14 Dec 1805, ?? Virginia or Georgia ?? Child of MARY KIDD and EDWARD CARTER is: i. MATILDA7 CARTER, b. Georgia; d. Georgia; m. JAMES D. TUCKER; b. Georgia. Notes for MATILDA CARTER: There may have been another daughter born between Mary Ann and Sarah who died young. The younger children lived with their Grandfather Carter after their mother died. Notes for JAMES D. TUCKER: The younger children may have gone to live with their grandfather Edward Carter after their mother died. 1840 Oglethorpe James Tucker male 30-40 female 30-40 female 5-10 female 5-10 female 5-10 female <5 female <5 1850 Oglethorpe County, Georgia Sheet No: 34A 497 498 James D. Tucker 47 M GA Matilda Tucker 43 F GA Mary Tucker 19 F GA Sarah A. Tucker 16 F GA Susan Tucker 15 F GA Eliza Tucker 13 F GA Wesley Tucker 12 M GA William Tucker 10 M GA Edward Tucker 8 M GA Henry Tucker 6 M GA James Tucker 4 M GA Robert Tucker 2 M GA 1860 Oglethorpe County, Georgia 387 385 Tucker, James D. 56 M Farmer Ga. Tucker, Caroline 45 F Ga. 25. WYLIE6 CARTER (JOHN (OF OGLETHORPE)5, THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born Abt. 1789 in Virginia, and died Bef. 1880. He married MARY "POLLY" PINSON. She was born in South Carolina or Virginia. Notes for WYLIE CARTER: The ages don't match between 1830 and 1840. =================================== 1830 Oglethorpe County Capt Hardiman's District Wiley Carter male 30-40 [1790-1800] female 30-40 [1790-1800] female 10-15 [1815-1820] female 5-10 [1820-1825] female 5-10 [1820-1825] male <5 [1825-1830] male <5 [1825-1830] =================================== Oglethorpe County, Georgia 1840 Wiley Carter Family male 50-60 female 40-50 female 20-30 female 15-20 male 10-15 male 5-10 male 5-10 female 5-10 =================================== Oglethorpe County, Georgia 1850 Could this be Wylie Carter? ... | W. Carter | 65 M | VA | | Mary Carter | 56 F | VA | | Malessa Carter | 36 F | GA | | Sarah Carter | 35 F | GA | | John H. Carter | 20 M | GA | | Martha A. Carter | 19 F | GA | | William Carter | 14 M | GA | Notes for MARY "POLLY" PINSON: Wylie Carter's wife's maiden name from Ray Angel. Children of WYLIE CARTER and MARY PINSON are: i. MALISSA7 CARTER, b. Georgia; m. MALE BUES. ii. SARAH CARTER, b. Georgia. iii. FEMALE CARTER, b. Georgia. iv. JOSEPH CARTER, b. Georgia; m. ELIZABETH CARTER; b. Georgia. v. JOHN H. CARTER, b. Georgia. vi. MARTHA A. CARTER, b. Georgia. vii. MALE CARTER, b. Georgia. viii. WILLIAM CARTER, b. Georgia; m. SUSAN CARTER; b. Georgia. 26. MARY HOLLY6 CARTER (JOHN (OF OGLETHORPE)5, THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born Abt. 1797 in Virginia, and died Aft. 1880 in Oglethorpe County, Georgia. She married WILLIAM CARTER 28 Nov 1812 in Oglethorpe County, Georgia, son of THOMAS CARTER and ELIZABETH DOGGETT. He was born in Virginia, and died in Oglethorpe County, Georgia. Holly Carter was in Maternal Haplogroup "H" (The clan of Helena). For more information on Maternal Haplogroups, see the following websites. http://www.oxfordancestors.com/your-maternal.html http://www.familytreedna.com/ 1880 United States Census, Oglethorpe County, Georgia Page Number 256D Holly CARTER Self W Female W 82 GA At Home GA GA Lorina TUCK Dau W Female W 62 GA Keeping House GA GA Cyntha JACKSON Other S Female B 8 GA Servant GA GA Buried: Holly Carter Cemetery; Dunlap, Oglethorpe County, Georgia Notes for WILLIAM CARTER: =================================== William's father may have been Thomas Carter and his mother may have been Elizabeth Doggett-Carter. =================================== 1830 Oglethorpe County, Georgia page 68 Capt Hargrove's District William Carter male 40-50 [1780-1790] female 30-40 [1790-1800] female 15-20 [1810-1815] female 10-15 [1815-1820] female 10-15 [1815-1820] female 5-10 [1820-1825] female 5-10 [1820-1825] female <5 [1825-1830] =================================== Oglethorpe County, Georgia 1840 William Carter Family male 50-60 female 40-50 female 15-20 female 15-20 female 10-15 male 5-10 female 5-10 =================================== Will of William Carter Oglethorpe County March 26 1845 http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/oglethorpe/wills/wl513carter.txt More About WILLIAM CARTER and MARY CARTER: Marriage: 28 Nov 1812, Oglethorpe County, Georgia Children of MARY CARTER and WILLIAM CARTER are: i. PARTHENIA7 CARTER, b. Georgia; m. JOHN B. HARTLEY, 21 Aug 1838, Georgia; b. Louisiana; d. Jackson County, Georgia. Jefferson, Jackson County, Georgia Notes for JOHN B. HARTLEY: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/ga/jackson/1850/Pg0058a.txt 1850 Jackson County, Georgia Page 59A - On same page as Jesse Carter, Jr. 868 868 Hartley, John B. 36 M GA Hartley, Parthina 36 F GA Hartley, Elizabeth P. 11 F GA Hartley, John W. 9 M GA 1860 Federal Census Jackson County, Georgia 418 413 Hartley, John B. 44 M Louisanna Hartley, Parthena 44 F Georgia Hartley, John W. 19 M Georgia Hartley, James W. 16 M Georgia Information from Patrick E. Roper, May 2006. More About JOHN HARTLEY and PARTHENIA CARTER: Marriage: 21 Aug 1838, Georgia ii. LEVENIA CARTER, b. Georgia; m. (1) MALE PATMAN; m. (2) MALE TUCK. iii. MARY ELIZABETH CARTER, b. Georgia; m. JESSE (JR.) CARTER, 11 Dec 1841, Oglethorpe County, Georgia; b. 16 Feb 1821, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. Buried in the Carter family cemetery in Jackson County, Georgia. 1850 Jackson County, Georgia Page 59A - Next door to Parthina Carter-Hartley. 867 867 Carter, Jesse 28 M GA Carter, Mary E. 27 F GA Carter, Sarah J. 7 F GA Carter, James H. 5 M GA Carter, Joseph 3 M GA Carter, William L. 1 M GA 1860 Federal Census Jackson County, Georgia 419 414 Carter, Jesse 39 M Georgia Carter, Mary E. 38 F Georgia Carter, Sarah J. 17 F Georgia Carter, James H. 15 M Georgia Carter, Joseph 13 M Georgia Carter, Jesse R. 10 M Georgia Carter, Hugh S. 5 M Georgia Carter, Mary M. D. 3 F Georgia Carter, George A. 1 M Georgia More About JESSE CARTER and MARY CARTER: Marriage: 11 Dec 1841, Oglethorpe County, Georgia iv. MARTHA JANE CARTER, b. Georgia; m. MALE WILLIAMS. Notes for MARTHA JANE CARTER: Martha Jane Carter was in Maternal Haplogroup "H" (The clan of Helena). For more information on Maternal Haplogroups, see the following websites. http://www.oxfordancestors.com/your-maternal.html http://www.familytreedna.com/ v. WESLEY TAYLOR CARTER, b. Georgia; m. MARTHA C. CARTER; b. Georgia. 1860 Federal Census Jackson County, Georgia 417 412 Carter, Wesley 29 M Georgia Carter, Martha C. 29 F Georgia Carter, William F. 6 M Georgia 1880 United States Census Oglethorpe County, Georgia Page Number 250D Wesly T. CARTER Male 49 GA Farmer Martha C. CARTER Female 49 GA Keeping House William T. CARTER Male 26 GA Labor On Farm vi. SARAH ANN CARTER, b. 23 Mar 1834, Oglethorpe County, Georgia; d. 03 Jul 1917, Oglethorpe County, Georgia; m. NICHODEMUS OR NICODEMUS ROBERT KIDD, 18 Dec 1850, Oglethorpe County, Georgia; b. Georgia; d. 10 Sep 1861. Notes for SARAH ANN CARTER: According to the 1880 census, both of her parents were born in Virginia. 1870 Clarke, GA 1880 United States Census, Grove Hill, Madison County, Georgia Page Number 22C James A. LESTER Self M Male 23 GA Farmer GA GA Holley M. G. LESTER Wife M Female 26 GA Keeping House GA GA Hattie LESTER Dau S Female 8M GA GA GA Sarah A. KIDD Mother W Female 46 GA At Home VA VA Sarah Ann Carter was in Maternal Haplogroup "H" (The clan of Helena). For more information on Maternal Haplogroups, see the following websites. http://www.oxfordancestors.com/your-maternal.html http://www.familytreedna.com/ Buried: Holly Carter Cemetery; Dunlap, Oglethorpe County, Georgia Tombstone: "We trust our loss will be her gain, And that with Christ she's gone to reign. wife of Robert Kidd" Notes for NICHODEMUS OR NICODEMUS ROBERT KIDD: =================================== Oglethorpe County, Georgia 1850 census: | Miles Kidd | 52 M | Farmer 100 | VA | | Malinda Kidd | 43 F | | GA | | Nichodemos Kidd | 17 M | Farmer | GA | ============================= 1860 Federal Census Madison County, Georgia http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/madison/census/1860/0197.gif Private Nicodemus R. Kidd enlisted July 11, 1861 http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/madison/military/civilwar/madgreys.txt Company A, 16th Regiment Georgia Volunteer Infantry Army of Northern Virginia C.S.A. Madison County, Georgia "Madison County Greys" KIDD, Nicodemus R. -- Private July 11, 1861. Died of disease in camp near Richmond, Va., Sept. 10, 1861. I don't believe in ghosts but I was once told a ghost story about Nicodemus Robert Kidd. Actually, I don't know that he went by the name "Nicodemus". He is listed in the 1850 Census by that name but his wife's tombstone says "Robert". The story goes like this. It was during the Civil War. One of the small children, I think it was one of the girls but I'm not sure, wanted to visit a neighboring farm but the child was too small to go alone so an adult was sent to accompany the child. When they reached the fence, the child screamed and ran back home. When the child calmed down enough to talk, she said she saw her Daddy's ghost sitting on the fence post. Not long after that they received word that Nicodemus Robert had died. Like I said, I don't believe in ghosts but I think it makes an interesting story. More About NICHODEMUS KIDD and SARAH CARTER: Marriage: 18 Dec 1850, Oglethorpe County, Georgia vii. SUSAN THOMAS CARTER, b. 21 Nov 1843, Georgia; d. 12 Oct 1864; m. MALE GILMER. Susan Thomas Carter was in Maternal Haplogroup "H" (The clan of Helena). For more information on Maternal Haplogroups, see the following websites. http://www.oxfordancestors.com/your-maternal.html http://www.familytreedna.com/ Buried in the Holly Carter Cemetery in Dunlap, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. 27. EDNA EDNY6 CARTER (JOHN (OF OGLETHORPE)5, THOMAS (OF MECKLENBURG)4, ROBERT (OF CUMBERLAND)3, THOMAS (OF GOOCHLAND)2, GILES1) was born in Georgia. She married JAMES S. (SR.) PINSON 08 Nov 1824 in Madison County, Georgia. He was born 1802, and died 1866. Notes for EDNA EDNY CARTER: It looks like there were three boys older than Mary. There may have been another child between Mary and William. In Maternal Haplogroup "H" (The clan of Helena). For more information on Maternal Haplogroups, see the following websites. http://www.oxfordancestors.com/your-maternal.html http://www.familytreedna.com/ Notes for JAMES S. (SR.) PINSON: ================================================== 1830 Oglethorpe County, Georgia page 69 - Capt Hargrove's District James Pinson male 30-40 [1790-1800] female 20-30 [1800-1810] male <5 [1825-1830] male <5 [1825-1830] male <5 [1825-1830] ================================================== 1850 Federal Census Madison County, Georgia 174 174 Pinson, James 48 (1802) Pinson, Edny 46 (1804) Pinson, Mary 19 (1831) Pinson, William 14 (1836) Pinson, Robert 12 (1838) Pinson, Jane 11 (1839) Pinson, Sarah 9 (1841) Pinson, Susan 7 (1843) Pinson, Elizabeth 4 (1846) ================================================== More About JAMES PINSON and EDNA CARTER: Marriage: 08 Nov 1824, Madison County, Georgia Children of EDNA CARTER and JAMES PINSON are: i. MARY7 PINSON, b. Georgia; m. EZEKIAH F. HARDEMAN, 11 Aug 1859, Madison County, Georgia; b. Georgia. More About EZEKIAH HARDEMAN and MARY PINSON: Marriage: 11 Aug 1859, Madison County, Georgia ii. WILLIAM PINSON, b. Georgia. iii. ROBERT PINSON, b. Georgia. iv. JANE PINSON, b. Georgia. [S67727] Mary Frances Reynolds Eggleston. The information concerning these Carter lines are taken from working documents at Daniels Family Tree and other researchers. The content changes frequently as new information emerges. All speculation should be investigated for accuracy and used with the utmost of caution. - Mary Frances Eggleston [S67727] Mary Frances Reynolds Eggleston. Regardless of his ancestry, the man we know to be our ancestor, GILES CARTER-1 of Virginia, born about 1634, somewhere in England, came to Virginia before 1653. He gave a deposition in 1680, stating his age as 46. [Henrico County, VA Deeds 1677-1705, pg. 148.] [S67727] Mary Frances Reynolds Eggleston. http://oliverdreams.tripod.com/TedCarterSr.html GILES? will was written December 14, 1699, and recorded in Henrico County. The proving witnesses were Thomas Smythes, William T. Sewell, and James D. Davis, his son-in-law. [S67727] Mary Frances Reynolds Eggleston. zieman3/familytree.htm?f=FamilyTree/index.asp?id=31831&cs=brown&lang=english&mode= Produced by Dick Zieman This website reflects the collective research of many individuals over a period of many years. We are fortunate to post their results. -Mary Frances Eggleston